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Elrorih 22/May/2006 at 09:12 AM
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Whats your favorite language? Mine is elvish, it sounds so beatiful and alfabets are not so hard to learn.

Hithlum 22/May/2006 at 09:29 AM
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Well, actually you cannot say just "Elvish", because there are many Elvish languages, the most known being Sindarin and Quenya. I’m assuming you mean Sindarin, for that is the most spoken one in Lord of the Rings. I like the language too, because it sounds so warm..
Elrorih 23/May/2006 at 02:33 AM
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Sorry... i meaned sindarin... I have been played too much D&D...
Manne 23/May/2006 at 05:16 AM
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Mine is Mordor... Becose its so evil
Tinu 23/May/2006 at 01:25 PM
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Mordor is a place, not a language, Manne
Celebrin 25/May/2006 at 09:01 AM
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I have to say it, Sindarin (Elvish Language). It is the main elvish language in the books. As the one from Valinor (Quenya) was abandoned because of the dislike that Thingol held against Feanor’s sons. Any elvish language I guess but there isn’t enough Quenya to know much of it.
Lord Turgon 26/May/2006 at 09:30 AM
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My favorite is the Black Tongue of Mordor due to the fact it sounds really cool when Gandalf speaks it in the films and only some of the Dark Lords best speak it, such as the Nazgl ( not counting the trolls of course ). Id say my second favorite would be Sindarin because like Nolofinw said it is the main language in the books.

Hithlum 27/May/2006 at 03:33 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by Lord Turgon on Friday, May 26, 2006

Id say my second favorite would be Sindarin because like Nolofinw said it is the main language in the books.                                                                                                                         


No, actually it’s not, that would be the Westron, or normal English..
Romenna 28/May/2006 at 05:37 AM
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my favourite would have to be Sindarin because it was based on Welsh, and I’m a fluent Welsh speaker!
Thorsten 28/May/2006 at 07:25 AM
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EvangelionX,

you would not, by any chance, have stumbled across

http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/mta/shodwariindex.html

and just copied the whole page to here (maybe even without asking permission by the author first)? Because, well, it has precious little to do with Tolkien’s languages...
Nienna Tindm 28/May/2006 at 08:33 AM
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Evangelion - welcome to the Plaza, I do hope you enjoy this place. As Thorsten has already pointed out, if you have copied the material from other sites, you should state that in your post. Just a gentle reminder for the future. And we mostly encourage you to express your opinion. 
Now, back to the topic. Well, I would pick Sindarin of all the Tolkien’s languages. The main reason is because it sounds so fluent and mysterious in a way. Other languages have this harsh note which I don’t like very much, except maybe Rohirric.
Romenna - you speak Welsh? Interesting - maybe you should give us a couple of lessons? -_^
Romenna 28/May/2006 at 09:03 AM
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 I’d be glad to Nienna Tindm , what would you like to know? some basic facts for you:

  • As far as spelling goes, welsh is far easier than english, almosth all of is phonetical, though some of the sounds are different to those in english. In this respect, welsh and Sindarin are the same, pronunciation bing virtually identical
  • word order in sentences in welsh is usually reversed from that in english, for example, instead of saying "green grass", you would say "grass green", as you would in French for example.
  • Welsh grammar can be hard because you find such things as mutations at the begining of some words in certain contexts and you have masculine and feminine versions of the numbres 1,2and 3 (like you do in french with un and une). i dont know if this would be true in Sindarin, does anyone know?

 

There’s loads more I could say!! Any other questions, id love to answer. it’s great thta anyone is interested in our language, I’m very proud of it, since so few people speak it and it’s so unique to my country.

Maewen 02/Jun/2006 at 04:27 AM
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It seems not enough to copy contents of external websites - now they even copy what has already been posted in the same thread being copied from external websites... not to speak about the fact that it has nothing to do with the thread-title at all.

Someone around there to teach those kids reading?
Collecthor 02/Jun/2006 at 09:22 AM
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Erutulcon Alarion 02/Jun/2006 at 10:32 PM
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I really like Black Speech of Mordor. Man it is soooooo cool! I didnt even know about the languages thing until when i clicked it, i see a dictionary of all these cool words. Man that would be so cool if i could learn the language and speek it to my mom. My mom will freakin think that i am talking Witchcraft. Then I’ll say, No this is the language of the Dark Lord.’’ Me being a Christian, my mom would freakin faint. Thats hilarious. I just inpisred myself to learn it. Peace.
Smeagupse 04/Jun/2006 at 09:32 AM
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My favourite has to be the langauage spoken in Khazad-Dum. It’s easy to pronounce, in a normal alphabet, and who doesn’t just love saying Varkin to everyone, (welcome). That language rocks! I don’t like the elven languages much, but that could just be because I am a dwarf and I’m not meant to like elves at all! *g*
Aelindis 05/Jun/2006 at 12:00 AM
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Smeagupse: Is this "language spoken in Khazad-Dum (easy to pronounce, in a normal alphabet)" which you are referring to by any chance a language created by Tolkien?
If so, I would be grateful for further information and references regarding the Dwarvish (?) word Varkin (welcome).
joehan 05/Jun/2006 at 05:49 PM
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mine would have to be the lanauge used in rohan its old english i think i really like the sound of it, however i really like what aragon says at the crowning to his relm i think it might be elvish, it the saying he says and it kind of sounds like a song and he moves amoung the people when this is playing.
Ash nazgs 06/Jun/2006 at 06:58 AM
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I’d have to say that my favorite langauge is Black-Speech

Hobbitish

And Elvish

They all sound really cool and they throw people off!!!

Maewen 06/Jun/2006 at 07:03 AM
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Sorry, Ash nazgs, but would you mind telling me what "Hobbitish" sounds like?
Calen Forgil 06/Jun/2006 at 10:04 AM
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Adunaic is awesome, cause the most powerful nation in the world used it, GO NUMENOR!!
Smeagupse 06/Jun/2006 at 11:47 AM
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Aelindis: Khuzdul I think is the word for it. Varkin is possibly made up (my imagination rather runs away with me regarding fact and fiction) , but Khuzdul was definitely mentioned in the books.  Words such as Khazad aimenu (the dwarves are upon you) were written by Tolkien. My imagination isnt playing tricks with me on this one! *g* If you want some references to Khuzdul itself, you can look to The Encyclopedia of Arda (link) which has some great information, and references to languages. There is a section on Khuzdul ,and mentions a few words made by Tolkien. Ill get back to you on the rest.
(BTW, I am missing out quite a few accents on these words and I apologise!)
Aelindis 06/Jun/2006 at 12:44 PM
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Thanks a lot, Smeagupse, though I was already aware of the existence of Khuzdul and some useful ressources in this regard.
The only thing I wanted to know is what references there might be about a Khuzdul (?) word *Varkin.
Actually, I did encounter a Tolkienian word  varkin, but not in a Khuzdul context, and its meaning seemed to be "I dread, I fear".

CirthErebor 09/Jun/2006 at 12:07 PM
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Quenya or Sindarin, easily, but I like Sindarin better because it seems to have more flowing grace than Quenya, which seems a little more rigid...just my opinion.

Nathangel 09/Jun/2006 at 03:07 PM
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Any form of Elvish is just simply beautiful in my book. I love it espesially when arwen speaks it in the movies. And the way it is written is just so awsome that it makes you want to learn the language. I love the creativity that Tolkien has put in his books and how much more creative Jackson has made it in motion pictures
Ltetru 10/Jun/2006 at 08:58 AM
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I love Quenya. Sindarin is also great but I still admire everything old and almost forgotten. The more complicated the better (in real life I plan to learn Latin which is sooo great!)
Vebrithien 12/Jun/2006 at 08:48 AM
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I would have to say Entish is my favourite language because it’s completely different from all the other languages eg letters. And it’s so mysterious and strage. But it’s also a really nice language to hear as well !!!
Celebrimbor 13/Jun/2006 at 07:18 AM
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Whilst the Quenya tongue of the Noldor that was spoken in Valinor and Beleriand, for a time, does sound suitably regal I personally believe Sindarin to be the most attractive spoken tongue in the history of Middle-earth. The difference between the two tongues is evident in the early years of the First Age, before Thingol abolished the Quenya tongue of the Noldor, when the two were spoken almost in conjunction. As a result we are continually aware of the tandem use of both names of Quenya and Sindarin origin. For instance Turgon was said to have personally named his city state as Ondolinde that comes from the Quenya tongue, however it became far more widely known as Gondolin. Sindarin seems, in my mind at least, to be equally melodious but also more succinct and charismatic. 

Marietta 14/Jun/2006 at 02:36 AM
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I love the elvish languages in middle earth. They have a nice flow and the complexity of it is amazing. The sad
thing about it is that since its not complete you cant actually learn to speak it. I know Tolkien didnt mean for
people to learn his languages in order to speak them. They were just there to fit in with the history of the various
races of middle earth, but still i try to learn little bits of it just for amusement. The elven script is also really
beautiful and easy to learn.

My second favourite language though is the black tongue. It just sounds so spooky.

Maewen 14/Jun/2006 at 03:54 AM
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> They were just there to fit in with the history of the various
races of middle earth

In fact, it was rather the other way round: Tolkien created Middle-earth and its various races to fit his invented languages
Golden Sailor 14/Jun/2006 at 04:05 AM
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My favourite language is Quenya.That is because it so nice to hear.Unfortunatelly in Lothlorien elves speak some type of Sindarin.If I want to be a full Lothlorien Elf I am gonna have to learn Sindarin.
CurtisJackson 16/Jun/2006 at 10:36 PM
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I think I would have to go with Dwarf Runes language whatever you want to call it ( The inscription on the title page to the lord of the rings)    I would rather enjoy learning that over Elvish, I just don’t have the time to Learn one of the languages; but IF I do find time in the near future, can anyone tell me a good place to learn how to read or write even speak the Dwarf Runes?
Thali 17/Jun/2006 at 02:15 PM
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I’d have to say both *elvish* languages. Q. and S. would have to be my favorites. I learned elvish from the kingdom pages in Imladris, and also from the books. It’s beautiful, and also quite fun to learn, especially when a group of friends decide to learn it with you so you can talk, and only have people who studied it know what you’re saying.  We tried Feanorian script for a while, but that was difficult.  

twongle 17/Jun/2006 at 10:45 PM
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I like Quenya because it sounds so harsh yet beautiful and has such a mysterious feel to it
Mithrandr 18/Jun/2006 at 07:43 AM
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my favourite language is propbaly the elven language, sindarin. it souds so buetiful and calm and peaceful, it is as if it is washing all your sins away in one flow of endless stream of water...
Lintehir 19/Jun/2006 at 06:02 PM
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My favorite language is a form of elvish called Sindarin. I like it because it floes smoothely. Even if ur saying something threatingly, it doesn’t neccesarily sound threatning.
lotp 21/Jun/2006 at 07:29 AM
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Going back to what I said earlier, why do people like the Black Speech so much? Elvish (both subsets) is much more flowing, because it’s like music. Though JRR liked Quena better, I like Sindarin, perhaps because I’ve never liked fancy/ formal stuff....                                                                                                                                
Tinfolia 22/Jun/2006 at 05:58 PM
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Hmmm my fav is Dwarf
BluEyeDevil 22/Jun/2006 at 06:43 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Tinfolia on Thursday, June 22, 2006


Hmmm my fav is Dwarf

 

Uhh okay lol; Id have to go with the Dark language from Mordor just because of the impact it had on the lands and the people that heard it, I mean when Gandalf  spoke it, EVERYONE was shocked, thats a pretty good feeling im sure to be recognized like that lol!

<<Yavanna edit:  You do not need to quote the post right above yours.  I’ve also turned off your signature as it is not appropriate for the Plaza>>

Kaos the Gold 26/Jun/2006 at 11:57 AM
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      Mine would have to be dwarvish because it sounded so cool when Gimli leaped out in TT and felled the orcs that were sneaking up on Eomer and Aragorn in the battle of helm’s Deep.

          Baruk Kazad!  Kazad ai-menu!  - Gimli, The Two Towers.

       But my second favorite language would be Sindarin, because it sounds so warm and beautiful, and also, as Romenna points out above, it is based on Welsh, the most beautiful language in the real world.

Zurgha 27/Jun/2006 at 02:04 PM
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I like the Black Speech, but Dwarven is pretty interesting too. I tend to favor "harsher"-sounding languages, and Black Speech is also impressive because of the reaction it provoked from the Free Peoples whenever anyone used it.
Lintesiriel 27/Jun/2006 at 06:14 PM
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A big welcome to the Plaza for many of you above.  My favorite language is Rohirric, as it is so similar to Old English, and both of the languages fascinate me.  It was spoken by so few, and is not one of the main languages focused on, as Sindarin or Quenya.
RaistlinMajere 29/Jun/2006 at 07:02 AM
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My favorite langauage is elvish. It sounds so beautiful and interesting. If it was a real lanuage that many people across the world knew, I would definitely want to learn it.
Lindir89 29/Jun/2006 at 08:35 AM
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i wouldn’t be able to decide between quenya and sindarin, because i like both for different reasons, and i think they both sound beautiful.  SO, the only solution is to try to learn both.  It’s somewhat sad though, because even though they both sound nice, there isn’t anyone within miles of me who would ever speak either of them with me.

hehe, the theoretical beauty of the languages being spoken is enough for me i guess.

Treebeard19 29/Jun/2006 at 10:52 AM
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Even though I’m a dwarf,  I must say that my favorite language is Elvish (Sindarin).  It’s flowing nature is just so graceful that it can enchant even the most firery peoples into calming down for a bit.  Plus, it just sounds cool and makes you feel important.
Erchamion76 30/Jun/2006 at 03:29 PM
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My favourit language would have to be Elvish. I just love the way of how it rolls of the tounge. I find it the only language that you can whisper and it still sounds beautiful and cool! I wish I had enough time to devote to learning it fluently. But once again, my schedule won’t allow it. I love to be able to speack it on a daily bases.

Bjorn 02/Jul/2006 at 02:16 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by twongle on Saturday, June 17, 2006
I like Quenya because it sounds so harsh yet beautiful and has such a mysterious feel to it
  Really? I find Sindarin the harsher of the two. But nonetheless it is my pick of the two well known Elvish languages(Sindarin und Quenya). Out of all of Tolkien’s languages I suppose Sindarin is my pick, too. It’s just that I’ve spent more time on it than any other. I’d pick Rohirric...but that would be Old English, and that is a real language, and thus would not be first on my list. Yeah, Sindarin
weaht 03/Jul/2006 at 03:52 AM
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my favourite language is without a doubt Quenya. it’s such a beautiful language.   
Warg Rider7733 03/Jul/2006 at 06:33 PM
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The black speach. for it sounds evil and i love mordor isengard and anything related
Doe Morganna 07/Jul/2006 at 02:32 PM
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I like all the languages, but my favorite will have to be Ent. I like the long, breathy sounds that make it up, and the fact that if you were to learn it, it would take you a long time to say anything. The patiance required...gosh if I had the time...
Doe Morganna 07/Jul/2006 at 02:33 PM
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I like all the languages, but my favorite will have to be Ent. I like the long, breathy sounds that make it up, and the fact that if you were to learn it, it would take you a long time to say anything. The patiance required...gosh if I had the time...
Arwen Lirimaer 12/Jul/2006 at 01:37 PM
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My favourite is Quenya and I’d really like to learn it once because when it’s written it looks beautiful and when it’s spoken it sounds beautiful but I also like Ent. As Doe Moranna said, it takes a long time to say anyhing in ent (I wonder if there are ent tongue twisters ) but it sounds really mysterious, that’s why I like it. Sindarin is also a nice language and I like it because it’s elvish and because Tolkien invented it. It’s a shame that Tolkien didn’t invent more cool languages...
14/Jul/2006 at 10:47 PM
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My favourite language is Westron, the Mannish language closest to English. What? Sure, it’s doesn’t have the eloquence or enchanting tones of the Eldar tongue, nor does it sound as strong and fearsom as the Dwarvish tongue or the Black Speeh. It is, however, the easiest for me to understand outright! No worry about pronunciation or remembering how to spell this or that foreign word; it keeps things easy for my simpleton mind!

On the otherhand, I propose that the screaching of the Nazgl deserves to be it’s own language.

Aelindis 14/Jul/2006 at 11:58 PM
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My favourite language is Westron, the Mannish language closest to English. [...] It is, however, the easiest for me to understand outright! No worry about pronunciation or remembering how to spell this or that foreign word; it keeps things easy for my simpleton mind!

Now, this is highly interesting, X !
The language spoken by the characters in LotR was called Adni (its own term) which name Tolkien rendered into English as Westron, another name of this language was Sval Phre ( = "Common Speach").
It has often been regretted that we know so little about Westron, because Tolkien has rendered it into English almost everywhere.
As you seem to have received inside information, you should share it with us simpletons.

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Wait, are you saying that the "real Westron" wasn’t that similar to our common (or past forms) of English? Oh, my, I may have made a little blunder! Of course then it must be atleast Middle English, still, since the Rohirric tongue is akin to Anglo-Saxon/Old English. I do find the term "Common Speech" intriguing since now-a-days English is one of the most commong tongues on the planet.

Makes me wonder if Westron spread through Middle-earth due to the tribes of Men in the Elder Days or because of the expansionism of Nmenre.

tole 16/Jul/2006 at 02:33 AM
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The Black Speech, language engraved on the ring. Simple yet special.
Uruk is Orc, and Hai is folk, and then you have Uruk-Hai, Orc Folk, with Orc pointing at human. It’s simple, too bad J.R.R Tolkien did’nt like Blck Speech, because some more words would be helpfull.      
             
But Westron is the easiest.           
                   
And the variants of Elvish sound so royal, majestic and it’s a language for the higher folks.       
              
I can’t decide! Argh!
Aelindis 16/Jul/2006 at 04:34 AM
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"Wait, are you saying that the "real Westron" wasnt that similar to our common (or past forms) of English? [...] Of course then it must be atleast Middle English, still, since the Rohirric tongue is akin to Anglo-Saxon/Old English."

There you are mistaken, X .
The "real Westron" was a language created by Tolkien, as I said above.
The "real Rohirric" was related to the "real Westron", though it was - in comparison with the former - "archaic".  As "Westron" was rendered into English, "Rohirric" was turned into ancient English, accordingly.
Tolkien explained that in Appendix F to LotR ( "On Translation").

Fairelind 19/Jul/2006 at 04:35 AM
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Quenya has been close to my heart since I began learning it. It sparked my (perhaps asperger-ish) love of language which I hope to pursue after I leave school. I’m currently coming first in my school in French (the only language that was available for me to study) so it sort of shows the power of Tolkien’s beautiful creations for inspiration in people all over the world.

btw, Aelindis is right. The ’real’ Westron and Rohirric had no resemblance to their representative languages.

Arcelor 19/Jul/2006 at 06:06 AM
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Quenya has become my favorite, because of how much I’ve learned over the years. THe way it is written is just so much fun to replicate!! Hehe, i love writing the stuff, especially to confuse my teachers at school....hehe i could make them think im an Elvish exchange student!!!

MWHAHAHA

elaviel06 20/Jul/2006 at 04:47 AM
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i definitely like sindarin the best! although i like the different types of elvish in general more than other middle-earth languages, sindarin just seems to the be the simpler one. quenya sounds beautiful, but it also sounds too complex. theres so much put into just saying the simplest phrases in quenya. whereas with sindarin, its complexity [word-wise] is similar to english. nothing too over the top, and yet it still manages to sound graceful and smooth.
Aelindis 20/Jul/2006 at 06:05 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by elaviel06 on Thursday, July 20, 2006


whereas with sindarin, its complexity [word-wise] is similar to english.

I invite you to back up your assertion by translating, just for purpose of demonstration,  the following phrases into Sindarin:

"A black ship" / "black ships" /  "I see black ships" /   "the ships are black".

Please, elaviel06, would you be  kind enough as to do those simple translations! 

Harlindon 20/Jul/2006 at 08:30 AM
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Yes, elaviel06, maybe you should try them and see how ’like english’ sindarin is
Harlindon 20/Jul/2006 at 08:35 AM
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Oops, forgot to include this in my post My favorite language is Sindarin, because of its sound and complexity. It is one amazing language. There are so many parts and learning it is a worthwhile endeavor. (well, ’learning’ is a bit of a stretch, since it cant actually be spoken in daily life) It al just flows so well...
AragornR 27/Jul/2006 at 02:29 PM
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My favourite language is probably the Black Speech of Mordor. I like evil things, but I do not like Orcish! It sounds weird...
Tinu 27/Jul/2006 at 03:04 PM
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AragornR - are you aware of the fact that the only attested word of Orkish in Tolkiens books is "Golug" , a name for the Noldor (UT:92)? There is no other example known. It seems a complete mystery to me that someone can dislike the sound of a language we have no clues about at all.
Perhaps it might be wise to have a look on Ardalambion.
Aranel Narloth 27/Jul/2006 at 03:52 PM
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My favorite language would have to be Sindarin. It is such a beautiful language to speak. It rolls off the tongue. I would love to be able to talk it. Well i technically can talk it. I just love the Elvish culture. It is such a great culture to learn about. It is such a great world to learn about. The people, the language, the places, the culture. All of it is awesome.
AragornR 27/Jul/2006 at 07:01 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Tinu on Thursday, July 27, 2006


AragornR - are you aware of the fact that the only attested word of Orkish in Tolkiens books is "Golug" , a name for the Noldor (UT:92)? There is no other example known. It seems a complete mystery to me that someone can dislike the sound of a language we have no clues about at all.
Perhaps it might be wise to have a look on Ardalambion.

Whatever! I still don’t like Orkish!

Ecthelion Anor 03/Aug/2006 at 07:57 AM
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My favorite language would have to be Black Speech because it is used the minions of Sauron that used to be good like the orcs or the Nazgul. I also like it because it conatains simple words but also has some complex words too.
crdan ar-fenil 08/Aug/2006 at 01:06 AM
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My favorite laguages are all sorts of elvish alldo I can’t speak it but it’s such a beautiful languages I defenetly want to learn it but I don’t know how the words have to sound but I think if you know how to speak ansd wright it it would be an verry easy language and your friends would be amesed to hear you speaking elvish
HADHOD 09/Aug/2006 at 10:24 AM
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mine would be the black tounge/laguage of mordor becuase it just sounds interesting, and also the laguage used by the dwarves of kazad-dum. This is mainly because I’ve always liked dwarves, even though im a gondorian. lol.


King Gothmog 10/Aug/2006 at 05:01 PM
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Though we don’t know anything about the language I have to say that my favorite is Khuzdul.  Mostly because Baruk-Kazad sounds cool.  I however dislike the elven tongue.  It flows too well, never really liked over pretty languages, speach is supposed to get a point across, sounding nice is secondary at least in my opinion.

Hadhod, though I agree the Black Speech sounds cool, along with Khuzdul I have to question your sanity when you decided to type in white!  Funny though.

Andune10 11/Aug/2006 at 03:23 AM
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My favorite language is Sindarin. It is a beautiful lyrical language. I would love to learn to speak it.
Harlindon 11/Aug/2006 at 11:49 AM
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Then why don’t you? Look around HERE. You should find everything you need to get started if you read through some of my posts.
Morbaruk 11/Aug/2006 at 01:38 PM
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My favorite language is Khuzdul,  the dwarven language devised by aule. Its a pity there are so little sources of information.

Khuzdul I think is similar to Adunaic, both are like rough and use much circonflex accent. I remeber that Adunaic came from tthe people of Marach of Dor Lomin, maybe they maybe had some influence by the dwarfs.

Earlendil 11/Aug/2006 at 05:16 PM
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Personally, I love the Rohirric names amd terms that Tolkien mirrored and rooted in Old English. I love historic stuff so anything rooted in the past always grabs my attention. Perhaps thats why I take the most interest in Rohan and its peoples culture. Some of the names and other aspects associated with Rohan are interesting and just plain loverly!
Harlindon 11/Aug/2006 at 07:43 PM
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>>Khuzdul I think is similar to Adunaic, both are like rough and use much circonflex accent.
Este tl dh na ithryn ’ln Thats Sindarin and I see quite a few cucumflexes there.

>>I remeber that Adunaic came from tthe people of Marach of Dor Lomin, maybe they maybe had some influence by the dwarfs.
You are correct in the assumption that Adunaic had influence from Khuzdul. If you would like to learn more about it I would suggest looking HERE at Ardalambion. Thorsten Renk may also be coming out with an Adunaic course where you can learn it too. (although he may decide not to or change his mind; I don’t believe anything is definite about teh projhect yet, although it seems to me that he will be going through with it.)
Andune10 12/Aug/2006 at 11:13 AM
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Thanks, Harlindon. You know, I think I’ll give it a try.
Harlindon 12/Aug/2006 at 11:27 AM
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I hope that you will succed Andune10
Andune10 13/Aug/2006 at 08:53 AM
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I may be asking for help but I’m gonna try to get the hang of it if Ican.
Magradhaid 13/Aug/2006 at 12:12 PM
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I like Valarin (e.g. Arapheln Duamann) since we know so little about it (well, more than Avarin!) but as for an Eldarin tongue I know more Quenya but think Sindarin is easier to write rhyming verse with.
Lungorthin 13/Aug/2006 at 01:00 PM
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My automatic choice would be Sindarin because of the way it flows and some of the words flow really well, a pleasure to speak. It reminds me of the French language. I also like Dwarvish, not sure which type because I’m sure there are many and I haven’t researched it deeply. Mainly because I have learnt to write in it. It is awfully harsh though, the sounds your mouth has to make are painful. Alot like the German language actually....
Olwen 15/Aug/2006 at 07:34 AM
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i love all forms of elvish, because a lot of it is similar to Welsh, my first language (and the best ever!)

i think this is because Tolkien fell in love with it when he lived by a train station, and he read the Welsh words on the coal carridges.

Ilthryn__Luin 15/Aug/2006 at 07:04 PM
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Rohirric is my favorite language, probably due to the fact that is much like Old English (or Anglo-Saxon), and that I have learned minor parts of Old English. Also, the Rohirrim are my most liked people in all of Middle-Earth, save maybe the Elves (all kinds).

Secondly, I like the Quenya language, even though Sindarin is preferred by most.

And on the third hand (although I have only three hands), definitely Entish, it is not at all hasty, and it is a very interesting langauge. Taurelilma-tumbalemorna Tunbaletaura Lmanor  .....  See, very interesting.

Snaggle 16/Aug/2006 at 05:20 AM
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The spoken language of the SIndarin...its sound is something that really draws you in....it makes me want to learn the language for myself, but alas....I still have yet to learn about how to speak it...we have all sorts of threads here on the Plaza...I think Ill take advantage of that here soon....
Skyrunner 22/Aug/2006 at 05:08 AM
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My favourite language is elven, ofcourse. the  way it is so souds when it is spoken, it sounds likethe language of angels. I wish that i could learn it. maby some should start giving class.

Taurel 22/Aug/2006 at 06:10 PM
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I have to go with Sindarin, I love how it flows and it sounds so musical. I love Quenya too, but I think between the two I have to go for Sindarin. The script is also simple yet fun to learn and write in. Apart from the elven toungues I also like Rohirric, mainly because I like Old English.
asadkhan 23/Aug/2006 at 05:57 AM
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My favourite language in Middle - Earth is that of the Dwarves or the Dwarven Runes. They are extremely cool and when you see them in the map of the hobbit, it gives a proper impression. So i think that they are the best language. If you want fonts for computer regarding the Lord of the Rings, then visit www.arwenundomiel.com.

Linwen 24/Aug/2006 at 12:50 PM
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It’s the Black Speech for me: evilness aside (I seem to have a findness with dark stuff, but that isn’t the real reason why this is my favourite language), I love the harshness of it: you could really be angry with the Black Speech. XD And it seems to have a simple formation as well, that is, not as complex as Sindarin, say. And it could sound beautiful in it’s own way; it just depends on who’s speaking, what’s being said and how. ^-^
Magradhaid 24/Aug/2006 at 01:55 PM
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Ilthryn_Luin: That’s actually Quenya words strung together in an Entish fashion; the only attested ’true’ Entish would be something like A-lalla-lalla-rumba-kamanda-lindor-burm, though I suspect the Latin alphabet is woefully inaccurate in describing the shades of each vowel, as it seems to have been a tonal language like Cantonese.


Lungorthin: That’s interesting, as Sindarin was said to have a phonology similar to that of Welsh and Khuzdl was rather like a Semitic (Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, etc.) than Germanic language (e.g. the consonantal roots). Khuzdl didn’t have the German ach-laut sound, though it did have a Semitic-style glottal stop.

Linwen: >>And it seems to have a simple formation as well:
I would say that is because we know so little about it. I doubt Tolkien developed it much further than in ’Ash nazg’: all other examples are debased Orkish dialects. Besides, he didn’t like it very much.
Minyaliel 25/Aug/2006 at 02:07 AM
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My absolute favourite Tolkien language (that I know of) must be Sindarin. Sure, it is not as well- documented as for instance Quenya, but I still love it enough to study it. Else, I’m very fond of Quenya, Adunaic and Telerin
Nennia Hlothram 27/Aug/2006 at 02:20 AM
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I think my favourite would have to be elvish, as well. To me it seems pretty complicated to learn but it sounds like a really beautiful language and if I was much more patient then I am, I would so try to learn how to speak it!
Magradhaid 29/Aug/2006 at 11:43 AM
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Oh, by the way, Harlindon, gln would have to be pluralized as glain with plural ithryn, hence ithryn ’lain. Though I would translate it as Idh tl hdh nan ithryn ’lain as Idh ’rest’ is actually the Sindarin name of Est and I would use sdh (SED-) instead for the third word.
Voronwe Lmion 31/Aug/2006 at 04:26 PM
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My favorite is Sindarin. Quenya is like Latin and its a little too high and mighty I think!
Srima Hliehhan 01/Sep/2006 at 11:17 AM
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My favorite language is Sindarin because it reminds me of Welsh (my maternal ancestors were Welsh).

I also like the Black Speech only because it is already translated into English, and I can guess more accurately (I hope) at what each word means.
Celebind Eryniel 08/Sep/2006 at 10:43 AM
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My favorite would have to be Sindarin because it sounds so cool.  And this isn’t really a Language of Middle-Earth, but I also enjoy it when Tolkein uses Old English in his books.

Earendin 12/Sep/2006 at 06:23 AM
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My favorite language is the language of Quenya.I try to learn it but I have stucked in the 3rd,I think,chapter.It is an exciting language and I would be very eager to use it in a daily base.I must confess I am sometimes jealous of the Elves.

Earendin 12/Sep/2006 at 06:29 AM
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If anyone is interested I know a site on the Internet that has a full dictionary of both Qenya and Sindarin languages and the best thing adout this is that they have it on display so you can write down(if you have patience)both dictionaries!In my next post I will write address because I don’t remember it now.
Earendin 12/Sep/2006 at 06:49 AM
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I have the site address!It is:www.geocities.com/jonathanrisser/the_sindarin_home_page.html

For those who needed it I was happy to help them.For those who didn’t find it helpfull I hope that in my next posts they will be helped.  

Magradhaid 12/Sep/2006 at 12:21 PM
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When I go to that page, I find a blank, white page with several advertisements on it.
Linaelin 15/Sep/2006 at 02:43 PM
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Personally I haven’t decided which I like better, Sindarin and Quenya, they are both very pretty.  Quenya is more developed but Sindarin flows better.
Kaldaka Lirinde 16/Sep/2006 at 05:19 AM
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Linaelin- Actually, Sindarin is better developed (I believe), although I do agree that Quenya is harder. You might almost call it harsh, but not relaly.
NineFingered 27/Sep/2006 at 08:09 AM
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I like Sindarin better, but Quenya has more of a Latin sound, somehow. I think the speech of the Mark is also very interesting.
Eonwe of Vanyar 02/Oct/2006 at 12:54 AM
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This is my first post! yay! My favourite would have to be the Sindarin language or the Black Speech......strange mix isnt it
elessarseregon 02/Oct/2006 at 05:36 AM
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My favourite language is sindarin elvish, but when it comes to the writing aspect of it I prefer the lettering used by the dwarves
lalla 03/Oct/2006 at 05:06 AM
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My favourite language is Sindarin, I agree it’s perhaps better developed. I also agree Quenya it’s harder and has more of a Latin sound (perhaps that’s why I don’t like it so much... I had an hard time at school studying Latin!).

Panethor 04/Oct/2006 at 06:48 AM
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I think that the best Language is the language which the Elfs speak. When you hear this language is like something which is made by the god. I found a book with the language which the Elfs speak. This is not a common language. Is the language which the Elfs speak in the City Halls.
Magradhaid 04/Oct/2006 at 12:00 PM
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What language and book are you talking about, Panethor?

Panethor 08/Oct/2006 at 03:14 AM
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Does someone knows in what language do the Hobbiets speak?   

Does someone in what language do the Gondorians speak?     Have you seen that in the cut scenes of the Two Towers when the son of Theoden dies Eowin tell something in the language of Rohhirim. That means that every one in Middle Earth has his own Language. Please if someone knows a Gondorian word to write to me the word and the place where he found the word.    

Kaldaka Lirinde 08/Oct/2006 at 04:37 AM
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I believe the Hobbits and the Gondorians speak Common Tongue. The Rohirrim do have their own language, but most of them can also speak Common Tongue. Elves have several different languages, actually. There’s been Noldorian, Quenya, Sindarin, and I believe a few others. The orcs actually speak Common Tongue for the most part, though with twisted parts of other languages in it. The Black Speech that Sauron came up with never hit it off with them.

bukkworm 08/Oct/2006 at 07:03 AM
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Personnally I think my favourite language is probably dwarvish.I think I like it because it is a very strong powerful language. The fact that I myself am a dwarf could possibly have a lot to do with it.

May your swords stay sherp

Kalidor the elf 11/Oct/2006 at 08:31 AM
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It is a fact that nothing beats The Elven languages. Sindarin or any kind . The languages just flow. It is almost musical in nature. Other langages are rough and choppy.The Elven languges has every language in middle earth beat hands down.
Endril 15/Oct/2006 at 10:56 AM
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The language that I like the most is the elven speaking called sindarin. I t is the first elven language that I came in contact with and I like it. I know just a few phrases of it though, that I learned from the sindarin archive on the Plaza.
Arvellas 20/Oct/2006 at 08:05 PM
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Panethor-First of all, there is more than one Elven language, so it helps to specify which one you mean.  Second of all, Hobbits speak Westron, also known as the Common Tongue, which is the basic language that was found in pretty much all places so that different kingdoms would be able to communicate with each other.  The Gondorians, who were descended from the men on Numenor, had two languages: Their own Numenorean language, and the Elven tongue of Sindarin as a second language.
Turien Silverleaf 03/Nov/2006 at 06:24 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by Lord Turgon on Friday, May 26, 2006

My favorite is the Black Tongue of Mordor due to the fact it sounds really cool when Gandalf speaks it in the films and only some of the Dark Lords best speak it, such as the Nazgl ( not counting the trolls of course ). Id say my second favorite would be Sindarin because like Nolofinw said it is the main language in the books.


 I agrees with Lord Turgon with this one. When the evil people speak, it sounds so incredibly horrible, even if it is a compliment. And when Gandlaf says it, it sounds forboding and evil. I like evil.....

Shadeofdeath 07/Nov/2006 at 07:05 AM
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I like the harsh sounds of Dwarvish. the language is likened to that of Arabic today, the sounds are so distinct, yet similar that its a very odd language, i have a link to learn that language

http://www.uib.no/people/hnohf/khuzdul.htm
MissT 12/Nov/2006 at 08:51 AM
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i like quenya very much!! but i think all the languages have their own beauty, and the fact that they are not spoken in real world with real people, in our daily routine, but just for a certain number of people that enjoy tolkien’e work, make them even better!
Nahash 15/Nov/2006 at 03:39 PM
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I like all the languages but Quenya u=is my favourite, it is flowing and beutifull, if you speak it right.
Cigfa 21/Nov/2006 at 07:02 AM
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I’d have to say the Black Speech of Mordor  It’s quite wonderful if you ask me...but then, I’m a minion of Mordor so you can’t always depend on my opinion ;)
>*Styxane*< 30/Nov/2006 at 12:25 AM
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My favourite language is Black speeches. I usually search and learned it when i am free. But everytime i learned then the other days i will forget how to talk using black speeches. I cant memorize it. Do anyone know? I love black speeches because i found it very interesting and good to learned.
saurons bane92 01/Dec/2006 at 05:23 AM
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Elvish is my absolute favorite 

samissupercool 02/Dec/2006 at 05:42 AM
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elvish, especially Quenya, is my favourite, it just rolls off the tongue
its how tolkein designed it because he 1)based it on latin and 2)wanted it to sound better because of the fact that it is elvish
thus he used lots of l’s and r’s so that it sounds a lot better than the glotted orkish
Migstyx 02/Dec/2006 at 10:27 PM
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My favourite language is Black speeches. I usually search and learned it when i am free. But everytime i learned then the other days i will forget how to talk using black speeches. I cant memorize it.  I love black speeches because i found it very interesting and good to learned.
Aelindis 02/Dec/2006 at 11:13 PM
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Migstyx: As Tolkien’s Black Speech comprises some thirty words only, it seems rather alarming that you are unable to memorize them in spite of your continuous effort.
Wilibald Bumble 04/Dec/2006 at 06:54 PM
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Elvish is my favorite. It’s script is so graceful and flowing.  Black Speech sounds rough and sounds cool but Elvish is truly a wonderful language. Quenya, especially, sounds fantastic and is so smooth. the Black Tongue sounds rather glotted, according to my opinion.

Wilibald Bumble at your service and your family’s

john rambo 05/Dec/2006 at 10:54 AM
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My favourite languge is the elves. I, also learn it in my spare time but by the next day ive forgotten it. The lord of the rings has lots of interesting langueges. I also like the black speech because it sounds so evil and menacing. It must of been hard for sauron to make up that languge for his orcs.

 

 

 

"Speak friend, and enter"

john rambo 05/Dec/2006 at 10:55 AM
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elvish is my favourite. I also like the black speech
john rambo 05/Dec/2006 at 10:58 AM
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Sorry about my last lord of the rings related posts. I had written something for something else on the plaza forums  and i acccedently posted both of them.sorry
Olwen 07/Dec/2006 at 01:44 PM
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i love all the languages of middle earth, they are all so beautiful and lovingly created by a master of words. i especially love both forms of elvish which are so similar to my much beloved Welsh.
Minaethiel 07/Dec/2006 at 06:20 PM
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Elvish is my favorite. I have spent quite a while trying to learn it and I think I have it mostly down. But, of course, all the languages have special meaning and then there’s the fact that they were created by a complete genius.
Oromandin 07/Dec/2006 at 07:38 PM
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I love Quenya. it is a very beautiful language and the writing is also.  I agree with you Minaethiel JRR Tolkin was a genius he had to be to create all of the wonderful languages! and the writings to go along with it! I wish I could learn them all! they are all so  great!
Wilibald Bumble 12/Dec/2006 at 06:25 PM
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Sinadirin!
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Battlehamster 14/Dec/2006 at 05:47 PM
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I want to learn them ALL!  But I’ll probaby have to content myself with less than that.  I love Sindarin.  And Quenya.  They’re both so beautiful-sounding.  Though the Black Speech is pretty cool.

They aren’t offering Old English at the University this semester...

Kaulargorn 15/Dec/2006 at 01:26 PM
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I think professor Tolkien made created the langueges in such a way that they are too different the one from the other and is built upon the special characteristics of the race that the language is spoken. So you can’t rreally compare them. If you like the toughness of the dwarves you’d like their language for example. Tolkien’s talent made the languages actually speak for the races 
Turabar 15/Dec/2006 at 03:16 PM
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My favourite language is Quenia. It is the easiest to learn and it was made by Feanor himself, whom I adore. He is my favourite hero.
Battlehamster 16/Dec/2006 at 03:16 PM
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Turabar- Quenya wasn’t made by Feanor, was it?  I mean, he made the letters, but I’m pretty sure that they were already speaking it before he was born or showed his prodigy-ness.  (To use a word that would probably make him cringe.  ; ) )  Or at least an earlier form of it, before it split.
Rapiere Lorde 18/Dec/2006 at 08:10 PM
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My favorite language was Elvish. I found it quite easy to learn and I know how to write half of all the inscriptions. Yet it makes a great way to insult my friends in a language they don’t know. Yet the elvish language seems like its missing something.
NineFingered 20/Dec/2006 at 04:44 PM
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My favorite speeches are Sindarin and Quenya.

Miriath 21/Dec/2006 at 02:08 PM
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I’m going to be unconvential and say that my favourite language has to be the Black Speech - I find it absolutely fascinating. It reminds me kind of like German; I can’t speak it - but I find it to be an absolutely fascinating language to listen to and I’d imagine that the Black Speech is slightly similar to this.

Magradhaid 21/Dec/2006 at 04:23 PM
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I could be a bit unconventional as well; there is a Tolkienian language I like, Taliska, of which we only know a couple words, which to me seem a bit boring. But then I found the word skirditaila in a volume of HoME, and fell in love with its sound! Granted, that’s only one word out of an entire language, but...

I also like the ’flavor’ of Telerin and Adnaic, and wish we knew more about Avarin. I don’t know yet whether I like Goldogrin, but Early Qenya and Qenya are very appealing to me.
Sidhien 23/Dec/2006 at 05:19 AM
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My favorite language is English, since it’s the only one I know . But Sindarin is a close second.

Morgil 24/Dec/2006 at 01:24 AM
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Lauregil...    

As I am no linguist, I have to plead the same limitation as Lauregil. However, of the little I have learned of the various languages that Prof. Tolkien created, my favorite would be Sindarin. Quenya is very elegant, but there is just some intangible quality that makes the Sindarin tongue appeal to me. Then again, it could just be that I know more Sindarin that any other.

likuku 25/Dec/2006 at 11:53 AM
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If we are tolking for real than Latvian lanuage

But about ME lanuages I don’t now because I now a little bit of them thereforeit is hard me to choose, but I think that the best, of thom I have seen, is Sindarin because it sounds so beautiful and I just like it. In the second place would be , as Miriath say, Black speech because it doesn’t sounds beautiful, but it have something...

 

Galadriel0204 25/Dec/2006 at 04:07 PM
Forester of Lothlorien Points: 160 Posts: 18 Joined: 24/Dec/2006
I can’t say that I understand much of what is said in elvish, but I love the sound of and am going to try to learn one of the languages. However, I am having a hard time picking between Sindarin and Quenya, both as with which one to learn and which one is my favorite. I think I will say that Quenya is my favorite because it is the tongue of the Noldor.