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Elfgurl13 04/Aug/2006 at 06:57 AM
Elfling of Lothlorien Points: 15 Posts: 65 Joined: 02/Aug/2006
Hey lotr fans I’m elfgurl13 and Im new 2 this forum now talk 2 me what do u think about elves?y r people intrigued by them?I like elves too.Do you ever wish they existed?Do you think they existed once?well post a message on what you think about elves.
Mirena Moonstar 04/Aug/2006 at 07:02 AM
Winemaker of Lothlorien Points: 1074 Posts: 488 Joined: 03/Aug/2006
hi elfgurl13, i love elves too.  When you get to 20 points, please join lothlorien.  It is a great kingdom to be in. Friendly elves, and kind ladies and lords.  Sometimes I wish I could be an elf for a day then human for a day...and so on and so on.....I think that elves did exsist a loooong time ago. lol. :D
philigers 04/Aug/2006 at 07:58 AM
Savant of Isengard Points: 555 Posts: 53 Joined: 31/Jul/2006
Everybody loves the elves! I wish they existed, but I’m sure they never did. That would have been crazy though. Though centuries ago many tribes in the Norse countries believed that elves were minor gods of nature and fertility.
Celebrimbor 04/Aug/2006 at 08:31 AM
Chieftain of the Mark Points: 8047 Posts: 4093 Joined: 26/Jan/2005
Elfgurl13. Firstly, welcome to the plaza. Secondly, however, this is a forum dedicated to the languages of Tolkien and one should only create thread discussions that expressly relate to these languages. Also, your topic for discussion is essentially a rather basic survey question and these are not allowed in lore forums.
Arvellas 04/Aug/2006 at 02:42 PM
Warrior of Imladris Points: 5462 Posts: 3016 Joined: 16/May/2006
Welcome to the Plaza, Elfgurl13!  Celebrimbor is right, though.  There are certain rules we must all abide by to keep the Plaza in order and enjoyable for everyone, and that includes opening threads in the proper forums.  This thread is what we call a survey, and belongs in the Out of Middle-earth Forum (<--link).  It would also be very helpful to read the Plaza FAQ’s (<--link).
Kylar Skyhawk 09/Aug/2006 at 12:26 PM
Scribe of Minas Tirith Points: 2412 Posts: 3612 Joined: 05/Aug/2005

I know that we have to keep the rules in order and make sure that people don’t exceed the boundaries and start creating threads everywhere but I think that with the limited number of people joining the plaza since the LotR hype died down we should try to cut the newbies some slack. After all, we don’t want to scare them off but convince them to get their friends to join, under pain of if need be.

Celebrimbor 09/Aug/2006 at 02:39 PM
Chieftain of the Mark Points: 8047 Posts: 4093 Joined: 26/Jan/2005
Calimehtar69. There has been no excessive vilification or repremanding of newbies here. It is important to maintain a basic level of order within the plaza and so any mistakes, which are perfectly understandable, should be pointed out in a polite and respectful manner and be accompanied by advice. I think this has been achieved here.
Elfgurl13 30/Aug/2006 at 06:11 PM
Elfling of Lothlorien Points: 15 Posts: 65 Joined: 02/Aug/2006
You are right Lotr fans I posted my comment in the wrong forum,sorry i had totally spaced out.Lady of Lothlorien I was planning to join Lothlorien and I really like the place and would like to live there and it would be nice if we were both elves for one day but let’s skip the immortality part because it is boring to live forever and maybe elves did exist once because tolkien think s frodo’s adventure happened 6,000 years ago.Everyone thank you for posting and saying welcome.Now let us get to languagues.I know a few elven words,do you think elvish has a similarity to any european languages?Do you speak elvish?Well post a comment on languages and everyone I’m sorry I didn’t keep the rules in order,I wasn’t trying ot be bad or try to break rules,I won’t do it again.
Arvellas 30/Aug/2006 at 07:28 PM
Warrior of Imladris Points: 5462 Posts: 3016 Joined: 16/May/2006

Elfgurl13-There is no one language called "Elvish."  There were several tribes of Elves, and each had a separate language.  The two Elven languages that Tolkien developed the most were Sindarin(spoken by the Sindar) and Quenya(spoken by the Noldor).  There are quite a few people on the Plaza who know or are learning one or both of these languages.  As for whether they bear any resemblance to European languages, yes, they do.  In fact, they were modeled after some Celtic and other Northern-European languages.

I don’t speak much of either of these Elven languages, but I am working on learning Sindarin.  If you want to learn more about any Middle-earth languages, THIS thread lists a lot of sites, both good and bad, so you know which ones to visit and which ones to stay away from, and it has links to some very helpful and informative sites.

Voronwe Lůmion 01/Sep/2006 at 03:05 PM
Forester of Lothlorien Points: 225 Posts: 28 Joined: 31/Aug/2006
lol, You could easily divide people into who would be the Orcs and who would be the Elves if they were real lol. Some wouldnt need much physical alteration....
Magradhaid 01/Sep/2006 at 06:40 PM
Imp of Umbar Points: 7957 Posts: 8204 Joined: 13/Sep/2008
>In fact, they were modeled after some Celtic and other Northern-European languages.

That is, Sindarin has phonology and lenition in common with Welsh, and the sounds of Quenya are similar to that of Finnish and Greek. Telerin has a bit of an Italian feel.

That said, here’s a bit of an example of Sindarin and Quenya translating
’This is the Master-ring, the One Ring to rule them all.’ (FotR, The Shadow of the Past)

Sina i Turcorma nŠ, i Er Corma turiŽn te ilyŽ.

Sen i Gorf gonui, i Erchorf an orthored di bain.

I loosely translated ’Master-ring’ into Sindarin as ’Ruling Ring’.
Nefertiti007 16/Sep/2006 at 07:47 AM
Tween of the Shire Points: 73 Posts: 122 Joined: 09/Sep/2006

Elfgurl13-Welcome to the plaza!  I am pretty new here too, but I have learned where things are well enough.  If you ever need help navigating or have some questions *The simpler ones would be better for now*, You are more than welcome to ask me!


noldor mccrissi 17/Sep/2006 at 08:39 AM
Master of Isengard Points: 234 Posts: 68 Joined: 14/Sep/2006
Elves are my favourite race in middle earth but I don’t think they ever existed because there is no elven architecture in todays world. But you never know they found bones of a person that was three foot tall and had big feet in a cave about a year ago and that sounds alot like a hobbit to me, so elves could have existed and could still exist I hope they do but I’ll need proof before i believe it
Aelindis 18/Sep/2006 at 12:30 AM
Elder of Imladris Points: 1987 Posts: 916 Joined: 18/Dec/2004
noldor mccrissi: As already stated above, this forum is dedicated to the discussion of Tolkien’s languages.
king elessar 88 25/Oct/2006 at 07:55 AM
Banned Points: 240 Posts: 33 Joined: 24/Oct/2006

Elves arnít my favourite race in middle-earth. I aggree with noldor mccrissi because there is no evidence of their existance. It would be fun if elves were real though - they might give you a jewel for long life! I dont like the elves as much as men though. Come and join the race of gondor. Gondor will give you welcome if you join-not that they wouldnít give you welcome if you didnít!

<Language Mod edit>: Edited for excessive spacing and the comment that since this thread is way off topic and not related to languages but just chit-chats about kingdoms and "Ooh, Elves are my favourite!!!" I’m locking this thread.