Tol Eressea

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Ædeling Beorhtlig 13/Oct/2006 at 02:43 PM
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What is tol eressa? ive heard of it but dont understand it. i thought it was a place where the exiled elves can leave ME but never come to Valinor and ents can go there too
Alcarináro 13/Oct/2006 at 03:03 PM
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Tol Eressea was the island that originally ferried the Elves from Middle-earth to Valinor when the three kindreds of the Elves made it to the western coast. One the second trip, when it took the third kindred, the Teleri, it was rooted within sight of Valinor, and it remained there as the place that the rebelling Elves could return to (after the Ban was lifted).
Ents can’t go there.
Endril 14/Oct/2006 at 04:07 AM
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Tol Eressea is the island near Valinor, in which the elves that lived in Middle Eart, the exiled ones could come back. Still they couldn’t enter Valinor itself and they had to live forever on the island. As Elenhir said, ents can’t go to Tol Eresea. How did youi got to that point Edeling? It would be interesting to find out how.

Elenhir: Which elves could only reach Tol Eressea and not Valinor. Can you explain that more clear? Thanks.
Durin of Moria 16/Oct/2006 at 11:17 PM
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Tol Eressea is an island east of Aman. Ents can’t go there. Ents live in Middle-Earth while Tol Eressea is counted as part of Aman.

Alatarishness 17/Oct/2006 at 03:07 PM
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Tol Eressea is the island near Valinor. The name means the lonely Isle...
Qtpie 17/Oct/2006 at 04:50 PM
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LEGOLAS THE ELF: Maybe I can help you on that one. After the Sinking of Beleriand some of the refugees from Beleriand went to Tol Eressea and lived there after they had the approval of the Valar. The exiles of the Eldar also went to Tol Eressea and I would assume that this would include the ones that did not journey to Valinor. There were also the Teleri that did not leave to Valinor and live in Alqualonde. If you remember The Cottage of Lost Play was a house that was in Tol Eressea.
Endril 17/Oct/2006 at 09:30 PM
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Thanks Taragolloion. That was indeed helpful. I wonder what was the feeling of those elves that could see Valinor from there but they could never get to it? It was probably sadness because the valar made them not to get  there. Or they just didn’t cared?
Maegolfin 17/Oct/2006 at 09:35 PM
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I imagine the Elves in Tol Eressea weren’t too depressed.  After all, Tol Eressea was probably almost as nice as Valinor (being considered a part of it).  Plus, the Elves probably knew they would end up in Valinor someday anyway.  The Valar were slowly lifting the ban, until eventually I’m sure all the Elves from Middle-earth and Tol Eressea would be able to get into Valinor.  Even after that, I’m sure many of the Elves would remain on the isle.
Qtpie 19/Oct/2006 at 06:48 PM
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LEGOLAS THE ELF: No problem . I would imagine the Elves would feel torn apart. They longed to be in Valinor with their kin, yet they also loved the ocean. But some of the Teleri moved to Alqualonde afterwards. If you would like more about this, it can be found in The Book of Lost Tales: Part I, I believe.
Durin of Moria 20/Oct/2006 at 04:07 AM
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But Valinor was not loved by many. For example, Earendil loved Middle-Earth more than Valinor. Feanor also think that Valinor although guarded by the Valars is unsafe.
Endril 21/Oct/2006 at 05:05 AM
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Feanor thought and made a lot of things but that doesn’t meen they were true. If Valinor wasn’t safe than what place would be safe in Arda? Did you think that the valar would harm what they created or that someone could attack Valinor? Than why wouldn’t it be safe?
ThoréandanSilverleaf 23/Oct/2006 at 11:48 PM
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Didn’t somebody attack Valinor anyway? I believe the Two Trees were in Valinor, and Morgoth came unto Valinor with his giant spidery friend Ungoliant, who destroyed the Two Trees of light. So, I guess, even Valinor itself wasn’t impregnable.
Endril 24/Oct/2006 at 09:39 AM
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Valinor wasn’t attacked by Morgoth. Morgoth came unseen in Valinor with Ungoliant and destroyed the two trees. Numenor attacked Valinor once and see where Numenor is now, somewhere in a void created by the valar. So Valinor ws safe indeed.
Qtpie 24/Oct/2006 at 05:57 PM
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Legolas Fireblade: Where did Morgoth come from when he went to Valinor to destroy the Two Trees? I always thought that when Melko was captured Manwe decided to have Melko spend some time in the Halls of Mandos where befriended some dark spirits. And then he served as a thane to Tulkas. Melko then took advantage of the Elves and Valar’s abscence because they were on Tanequetil celebrating the Eldars coming, and Melko and Ungoliant under the shadow of the spider destroyed the Trees and then fled.
elendil elessar 25/Oct/2006 at 05:34 PM
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Well Melkor was revealed has the instigator of the lies and unrest in the Noldor, he then fled Valinor, and the Valar thought he had indeed left for ME, while in fact he was hiding in the region of Avathar, still in Aman, where Ungolianth had her abode. From there they came unseen and hidden to the Trees.
The only "attack" on Valinor was made by the Numenoreans fleet and we all know the result of that. Yet it was done by the power of Eru, not by the strenght in arms of the Valar.
Tuna 25/Oct/2006 at 06:37 PM
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Tara- Melkor was only restricted to the Halls of Mandos for the three ages that he was commanded to be captive. After that, he was free to roam around Valmar and chose to serve whom he might so as to make connections and lessen the watch the Valar kept upon him.
Qtpie 25/Oct/2006 at 08:50 PM
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Ok thanks Tuna .
Oin 14/Nov/2006 at 05:39 PM
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elendil elessar: You’re mixed up: Morgoth was not revealed as the instigator of the lies until after his destruction of the Two Trees with Ungoliant. Until then, he was still in the good graces of Manwe and the others (save Tulkas and Ulmo, who saw through his lies). Thats when he went to Ungoliant’s abode and enlisted her in his scheme and went after the Two Trees. After that, he fled to Middle-Earth.