Mound of the dead elleth

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Endril 30/Oct/2006 at 02:04 AM
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We all know the mound of the dead elleth in the story of Turin Turambar where Finduilas ( hope I’m not wrong) was burryed. It is said in the unfinished tales that all orcs would never approach the place and that even Glaurung might have hesitated in passing near the mound.

Why is that happening and why are the orcs scared? 
Earendin 30/Oct/2006 at 04:53 AM
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Legolas Fireblade:I haven’t read yet the Unfinished Tales but as you describe it I beleive that the Orcs where scared of the power of Finduilas.For exampl if Eru was possible to die and they burried him somewhere I doupt any Orc or servant of Evil would dare even to approach it in 10 miles distance.

halfir 30/Oct/2006 at 05:41 AM
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Why is that happening and why are the orcs scared? 

The orcs shunned the Haud-en-Elleth quite simply because Turin Turambar killed any orc who ventured near there!

’But he would not suffer the Orcs to use the Crossings of the Teiglin or draw near the mound where Finduilas was laid. Haud-en-Elleth it was named, the Mound of the Elfmaid, and soon the Orcs learned to derad the place and shunned it.’ {UT-Narn I Hin Hurin -my emphasis}


Endril 30/Oct/2006 at 10:17 AM
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halfir: What about Glaurung? It seems that at one certain point it is said that even he kept away from the place. Would he be scared of Turin? I don’t think so. Or this was just an impression of the men that were with Turin at that time? I can’t really give a quote because I don’t have an english version.
Maegolfin 31/Oct/2006 at 05:53 PM
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Legolas:  Where does it say Glaurung feared the place?  I can’t seem to find that quote in Unfinished Tales.  Glaurung never passed that way until the day he died (when he crawled over the Cabed-en-Aras).  Even if he had gone to Brethil at an earlier time, I doubt that he would have taken the trouble to avoid the burial mound.  He had no reason to fear it.  If you could find the quote, that would be great!
halfir 31/Oct/2006 at 06:14 PM
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Legolas Fireblade: I think what you are referring to is the comment that Turin makes when the woodsmen tell him that Glaurung has come to the brink of Teiglin and is glaring across the water:

’Or can it be that one so evil and fell shuns the Crossing, even as the Ocs? Haud-en-Elleth! Does Finduilas lie still between me and my doom?’ {UT- Narn I Hin Hurin}

But this is only  a surmise on Turin’s part- although I accept that one could argue that it could be correct, not a definitive statement of fact.