Imladris

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KingODuckingham 30/Oct/2006 at 10:26 AM
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Is this word pronounced the way it looks, or Im-la-dree? I have always done it the second way, but then again I have never been reading LOTR out loud to anyone. Am I correct or sadly mistaken?
Padmé Amidala 30/Oct/2006 at 11:03 AM
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I don’t know what you mean by "pronounced the way it looks", because that can differ from language to language. I’m assuming you mean English, but that’s not really a given....

Anyway, I’m quite sure it’s  "eem-lah-dree-s", that is: the "i" in "Im" and "dris" is pronounced like the "i" in "list" (phonetic letter "i", so if you know how to read that "correctly" it should be easy enough), and you’re supposed to roll the r’s (Imladrrrris. Remember the way McKellen says Mordor in the movies? Like that.) And the "s" at the end of the word is pronounced, I don’t know if you left that out on purpose or not...

I hope this helps! And please don’t smite me if what I’m saying is wrong, I’m 99.9% certain it’s correct, but there’s always that 00.1% of uncertainty... Perhaps someone has a clip where J.R.R Tolkien reads it himself (or Christopher Tolkien, maybe) - that’d be good. There’s no better solution than going to the source!
KingODuckingham 30/Oct/2006 at 12:30 PM
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Ah, thanks very much for the correction, (and sorry for assuming English pronunciation ) I did indeed leave the ’s’ at the end off on purpose. I understand how to read it correctly, I think. The problem now is...I can’t roll my r’s. I’ve tried and tried, but the best I can get is a little flip of the r, sometimes.
Padmé Amidala 30/Oct/2006 at 01:06 PM
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Aww, don’t worry about that. It’s a sound that’s difficult to learn unless it’s natural in the language you’re speaking, or that you for some reason kept rolling your r’s when you were little. Some people learn to do it when they’re adults though, so you could just practice... But no one will shoot you for not having the compleeetely correct pronunciation.
KingODuckingham 30/Oct/2006 at 01:34 PM
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Is the emphasis on eem-LAH-drees, or EEM-lah-drees? Again, I’ve always assumed the latter, because English usually does so, and Ancient Greek (my only other language I remember the grammar rules for) did so as well for many nouns. But I don’t know the rules of Tolkien’s language.
Magradhaid 30/Oct/2006 at 03:46 PM
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I’d say the former, because of the consonant cluster -dr-. See the stress rules in App. E of LotR if you have it, and if you don’t, I can quote them for you.
KingODuckingham 30/Oct/2006 at 04:49 PM
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I’ve got it.
Thanks.