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Tenharien Calmcacil 06/Dec/2006 at 10:02 AM
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Why were there so many myths about Fangorn forest besides? Was it mainly because of the ents, or were there more reasons? I don’t suspect it would be a place anyone would want to travel if they didnt have to. I always liked hearing about the forest, its quite large and mysterious. Geez, i really need to read the books again.
Stiffler Vaneyar 06/Dec/2006 at 01:18 PM
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Well, like you said, it’s quite large and mysterious, and ’I don’t suspect it would be a place anyone would want to travel if they didnt have to’. When you have a place that is a mysterious as this, there are going to be stories about it. Even in our world today, if you find a place that is mysterious (the Bermuda Triangle, for example) there are going to be stories surrounding it that make it seem even more scary. People like scary and mysterious stories. That’s the way it’s always been, and the way it always will be probably.
Qtpie 06/Dec/2006 at 08:50 PM
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Their certainly was an air of mysteriousness surrounding Fangorn making travelers hesitant to enter it.

’There was silence, for suddenly the dark and unknown forest, so near at hand, made itself felt as a great brooding prescence, full of secret purpose...’Celeborn warned us not to go far into Fangorn,’ he said. ’Do you know why, Aragorn? What are the fables of the forest that Boromir had heard?’ The Two Towers: The Riders of Rohan

Also rumors and stories of Fangorn tend to keep people away from the woods.
mighty ent man 08/Dec/2006 at 06:19 AM
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When people do not know about a land or location they will spread things about it which they think are true but do not actually have any expirience of. It is human nature to do this really. The rumours and myths surrounding Fangorn would have spread from people who entered the forest. Fangorn is a strange place and it looks scary from the outside. This is where they stemmed from.
Daywalker 08/Dec/2006 at 06:27 AM
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And when thinking that there was once a great forest (Fangy and Oldie Forest were in it) it’s not so big suprise that stories will spread all around and Forest will get bad reputation. Also the rumours about Shepherds and walking trees aren’t something that will make forest less scarier.
Janskin 09/Dec/2006 at 09:14 AM
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Also, just think of the general "fear of the unknown". Forests are naturally unknown places. Visibility is limited to how far you can see before a tree gets in the way. A place where you are surrounded on all sides, filled with shadows, and the sounds of rustling leaves is naturally going to inspire fear in people.
Tenharien Calmcacil 09/Dec/2006 at 02:14 PM
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What do you think lives in Fangorn forest besides the ents? Ive heard things of werewolves? and forest trolls? It seems like there could be many things that live there in the forest, even if it is cursed lol.
Daywalker 09/Dec/2006 at 02:26 PM
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Tenharien - Werewolves didn’t exist anymore or atleast we are not told about anyone’s after Sauron. And he wasn’t exatly werewolf but took the shape of one. Trolls existed in Middle Earth but not in Fangorn Forest. Fangorn was Ents and Huorns kingdom that’s all. But old stories did live long time and maybe unknown was the main reason that Fangy got so bad reputation.
Annuicalar 09/Dec/2006 at 10:20 PM
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I think that probably ents were not the only thing that lived in Fangorn. It’s a forest; necesarily must be full of creatures, dangerous and harmless, big and small. A forest is never a lone place, though it always looks like one.

Oh, I’m so curious about forest, specially Fangorn and Mirkwood. You never know what kind of things you’ll find; you never know what is threatening you, hiding in the shadows, when you go into the woods with your cunning walk.



Novgwath 10/Dec/2006 at 04:08 AM
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I sincerely doubt that anyone who has entered Fangorn forest has been able to tell it is a nice place. Being such a vast forest, spanning from the Gap of Rohan to Isengard to Helms Deep then i imagine that anyone who went for a long walk in there would take some time in reemerging.

Also as has been mentioned in several previous posts. Nobody knows exactly what lurks within it’s boundaries. Even to most Ents are mysterious creatures, plus the general look of the forest is foreboding, near no daylight penetrating its canopy. a maze of twisted branches, hawthorn bushes and who knows what else.

Vugar 10/Dec/2006 at 06:56 AM
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Novgwath, Interestingly enough, so far as I can recall Fangorn stretched roughly about one hundred miles from the north to the south and roughly one hundred miles from east to west.  That means Fangorn covered an area of about ten thousand square miles.  So yes, it could take some time to escape the Forest if one was to become lost within it.  Merry and Pippin were fortunate enough to find a guide.
Oin 10/Dec/2006 at 03:34 PM
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Novgwath: Fangorn Forest did not expand all the way to the Gap of Rohan, nor did it expand to Helm’s Deep. Helm’s Deep was on the other side of Rohan, and huge ranges of plains lay between Fangorn and the White Mountains beneath which Helm’s Deep and the Hornburg was located. Moreover, the Gap of Rohan extended from the western side of the Misty Mountains westward, and Fangorn was only located on the Eastern side of the mountains - Isengard and Nan Curunir lay in between.
Novgwath 10/Dec/2006 at 03:59 PM
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Apologies for inaccuracies everybody. It has been sometime since i read the books so i merely took my information from the film’s portrayal!
Oin 10/Dec/2006 at 08:25 PM
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Novgwath: No problem. However, I would advise you not to use the movies as a basis for providing information for the lore fora. The movies are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to Tolkien’s books and its lore, and they should not be used as sources. Just a heads up for next time. Thanks!
Naduil 16/Dec/2006 at 04:32 AM
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I think that the forest is so old that many legends have come up about it over time. The ents have probably tried to keep these rumnours going so that they are not disturbed. Also no-one would dare to cut down the ents trees if they thought that the forest would get them, would they?
Tenharien Calmcacil 17/Dec/2006 at 02:14 PM
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Do you think the Ents kept the forest clear of any beats or other evil creatures that may have been there. The forest is so big and it seems that there could have been many other species there too.

Oh yes, and Daywalker, what is a Huorns? I have never heard of it .But thanks for your other info.

Vugar 17/Dec/2006 at 04:14 PM
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Tenharien, I’d begin with a quote from Merry.

"It was the Huorns, or so the Ents call them in "short language". Treebeard won’t say much about them, but I think they are Ents that have become almost like trees, at least to look at. They stand here and there in the wood or under its eaves, silent, watching endlessly over the trees; but deep in the darkest dales there are hundreds and hundreds of them, I believe." (Flotsam and Jetsam, TTT)

The Huorns were the ’forest’ that came to Helm’s Deep and slew the Orcs that fled from the Hornburg.  Their nature and origin is somewhat shrouded in mystery.  Merry believed that the Huorns are "Ents that have become almost like trees."  However, by sheer numbers I would think that their origin lies in both trees that become Entish and Ents that become tree-like, in the manner of the shepherd/sheep relationship that Treebeard described to Merry and Pippin.

Battlehamster 17/Dec/2006 at 04:16 PM
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Tenharion- As far as I can remember, we never find out exactly what Huorns are, but they’re in between Ents and trees.   I think that the hypothesis put forth by Merry and Pippin is that they’re either Ents who have gone all sleepy and treeish or trees that have woken up so that they’re more like Ents.  They’re sort of more feral than Ents are,too.