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witwalking 07/Dec/2006 at 10:40 AM
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i have not read the books and was wondering if any of you would recomend them?

please reply i respect your opinions

Laielinwen 07/Dec/2006 at 10:43 AM
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Awwww... Welcome to the plaza witwalking!
We love the books here and I expect everyone that posts, like me, will strongly suggest you read them. Id suggest you start with the Hobbit if you have not read any of Tolkien’s works. It is a good starting place and you get to know Bilbo there. He is very cool and important. Then move on to the LOTR.
Go for it and then tell us how it is progressing for you and what you like.

There is a Hobbit discussion/book club here in this forum too. We are just finishing chapter 3. You are most welcome to read those chapters and join us! We are not too far ahead!

witwalking 07/Dec/2006 at 10:48 AM
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thank you for that information and for the invite i will make a start on it later tonight and join in on the discussion when i have read to where it is at
Laielinwen 07/Dec/2006 at 10:53 AM
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Excellent witwalking!
The main informational thread for The Lore Book Club ~ The Hobbit can be found HERE
It is also pinned on the main page... last one. Keep an eye out for a thread with the Hobbit Title and Chapter 4. That will be the next one starting fairly soon. I’m happy you will join us.

I’ll find the other threads for you and put the links in. They are probably in the archives. We just had a lot of threads archived plaza-wide. When you finish reading the first three chapters you may find it interesting to read those three threads too.

Nenarye 07/Dec/2006 at 11:16 AM
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More Hobbit Minions . . .
Morgil 12/Dec/2006 at 01:23 AM
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I would agree with Laielinwen’s suggestion of starting with "The Hobbit". While it was written for younger readers, it is an excellent introduction to the wonderful world of Middle-earth as well as to Tolkien’s style of  writing. As the prequel to LotR, it also gives you some useful background information to. Some readers have said that LotR has a slow start, but it’s worth the effort.
merrypip03 13/Dec/2006 at 10:13 AM
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I agree that starting with the Hobbit is the best course of action because it gives the background for LOTR without being overwhelming.
NineFingered 13/Dec/2006 at 12:42 PM
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Some people find The Hobbit childish (not me!) but you can read LOTR without having read the Hobbit before. It’s not absolutely necessary to read the Hobbit before LOTR.

nEUroTIc 17/Dec/2006 at 05:22 AM
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100%...laie is right...read the hobbit first..u will have a base to the characters you will encounter in the lord of the rings..also you may know a tiny bit about the history which is often referred in the rings trilogy without anyone recounting what really happened..so absolutely read the hobbit first..move on to the trilogy..and if you are a fickle easily distracted reader never read the silmarillion
elendil88 17/Dec/2006 at 08:37 AM
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I was in the same situation, when I joined, I had not read the books either and I thought that the Hobbit was going to be boring, yet when i read it, i was very wrong and it ended up being my favourite. It is such a good read, and you wont be able to put it down, trust me!
nEUroTIc 20/Dec/2006 at 06:24 AM
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i woud also suggest what you do is ..once you finish reading the lord of the rings trilogy you can sit at a stretch and finish watchin the movies..it helps in the way that those tiny chinks you may have missed out you may get to catch up on when you watch the movie..plus it also gives you an idea about the characters after you have read the book..you can understand with fluidity the decisions the characters make and why they do so etc..etc..
Celebind Eryniel 20/Dec/2006 at 11:35 AM
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Quote: Originally posted by Morgil on Tuesday, December 12, 2006
Some readers have said that LotR has a slow start, but its worth the effort.
It’s very worth the effort.  And LotR does have a slow start in the sense that the serious action doesn’t really begin until the Hobbits get to Bree, but if you love a well-written, in-depth book, then Tolkien’s writing style should get you through the lacking-in-action bits.  Some readers find that writing style offputting, but if you can wrap your mind around it, it’s really awesome.
Endril 20/Dec/2006 at 02:32 PM
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Neurotic: Read the books and than watch the movies. Result: you get a great mess in your head thinking that Legolas really can skate/snow board on a shield. I don’t know about that. Maybe it’s better to watch the movies after some time passed after reading the books. Movies can make you confuse. They sometimes make me too.
Arvellas 21/Dec/2006 at 02:51 PM
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witwalking-Of course I would recommend the books!  Tolkien’s work is my favorite stuff to read in the world, and it only gets better with rereadings.  Like others, I would suggest that you start with The Hobbit, since it is an entertaining entrance to Tolkien’s world, and then progress to LOTR, and then the Sil.  After that, if you want, there’s the Histoer of Middle-earth siries and Unfinished Tales.  All together, they provide a wealth of information that is absolutely fascinating, and well as wonderful story-telling.

As for the movies, I would hold off for a while before watching those, and then make sure that you read the books again, because they are so different.

geordie 21/Dec/2006 at 02:58 PM
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t’s very worth the effort. And LotR does have a slow start in the sense that the serious action doesn’t really begin until the Hobbits get to Bree,

I beg to differ - - Barrow-Downs? Bombadil? cor blimey!
Oin 23/Dec/2006 at 07:42 PM
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t’s very worth the effort. And LotR does have a slow start in the sense that the serious action doesn’t really begin until the Hobbits get to Bree,

I beg to differ - - Barrow-Downs? Bombadil? cor blimey!

It’s all in the books...

geordie: Are you trying to suggest that Bombadil is in any way "serious"?

Many readers may think that the beginning of FotR is rather slow, but Shadows of the Past (the second chapter) is one of the most important of the books, and any fans of the Hobbit will enjoy Bilbo’s departure.

Battlehamster 23/Dec/2006 at 08:48 PM
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The barrowdowns are pretty scary, though.  And  the close encounters with the Nazgul.  And the part with Gildor is always amazing to read.  I love the part where Gandalf is telling Frdo about the Ring, too.  Oh, and the Conpiracy Unmasked--that’s such a great part.
geordie 24/Dec/2006 at 12:37 AM
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Oh, the Bombadil episodes ae totally serious - Tom is a figure of great power in LotR, though he hides it well. There is a great sense of evil in the Barrow-Downs episode [almost too scary at first reading - I was sure we were going to lose at least one of the hobbits] - and as I’ve said before - here is some of Tolkien’s best descriptive writing.
Kirinki54 24/Dec/2006 at 03:14 PM
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There is indeed serious action even before Bree, but for the first-time reader, the book might seem to lack direction before that. Bringing Aragorn - and with him a lot of other loose ends - into the action makes a very big difference, IMHO.