Is it possable?

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Ristin 11/Dec/2006 at 05:58 PM
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i look down through this thread and see about three threads comparing LOTR to somthing else or even worse- vs. it against somthing else. is it even possable to compare two books in that fashion. i think not. books are far too complex and different to compare let alone decided which one is better.
Istanira 11/Dec/2006 at 06:02 PM
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I think it’s possible. Afterall, there are many ’comparative literature’ courses founded on the idea of examining two (or more) bodies of work by two (or more) different authors. Perhaps the ’vs. ’ is a little , if not combatative, of a framework, but it’s not a that strange, in my opinion.
Nieliqui Vaneyar 11/Dec/2006 at 06:18 PM
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Ristin, one of my all time favorite (jk, not really) phrases my teachers, instructors, and professors used to use and I’m sure they still do is - compare and contrast blah blah blah.  It is an age old (well, older than me anyway) way of considering what is being studied in the light of something else.

I think it rather very human to want to relate something new to something older.  Part of the problem of the whole Middle-earth when Tolkien first presented it, was that it was difficult to compare and contrast it with other literature because it was so different. Now we are using LoTR and the other writings to use as a basis when comparing and contrasting newer writings against that, whether it be Eragon or the Sword of Shannara or the Gormenghast Trilogy and of course lots of other works.

Morgil 11/Dec/2006 at 08:57 PM
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Another consideration is that  with any topic involving comparison  there is usually a standard. As far as fantasy literature is concerned, Tolkien not only set the standard but introduced the genre to mainstream society. As Nieliqui Vaneyar noted, comparison is natural. So it has never really been surprising for so many authors’ work to be compared to that of the master.
An Capall Dubh 11/Dec/2006 at 10:59 PM
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I believe that making comparisons is part of life,no matter what the subject is.I can mention many examples here but to make a long story short ,comparing books usually involves similarities or possible similarities,this is normally the point where one starts.I’m not saying that everyone works like this of course,it’s my personal experience.
Region 12/Dec/2006 at 01:15 AM
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Yes compare and contrast is a well-known technique. But, as Capall said, it’s part of our life and part of the human mind. When reading through certain chapters my mind always links and associates it with different aspects of whole different chapters or different books or real life situations. On the other hand, one has to be careful about comparing. There has to be a link and a similar characteristic, IMO.
Laielinwen 14/Dec/2006 at 01:26 AM
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We just finished reading Charlotte’s Web in class. (I read it aloud to my students)
Today we will watch the movie and using a  Venn diagram we will compare and contrast the two. You can do that with anything really. I think the only problem comes when you are heavy on the compare and miss looking at the contrasts.
We start reading The Hobbit now... Weeee!
Nenarye 14/Dec/2006 at 03:53 PM
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"We start reading The Hobbit now... Weeee!"

Ohh, Fun!
Blackrose Bugg 14/Dec/2006 at 05:21 PM
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One problem comes in when people attempt to compare- or contrast - reactions to various books.  As emotional responses-  they are perfectly valid for the speaker- and pretty much meaningless to other people.  While I might find certain passages horribly boring - others would revel in the detail.  I might think that the warfare chapters are too bloody and nasty - others find them stimulating and exciting.  THOSE kinds of compare and contrast are tough- agreed.

But when you look at author style- lyrical vs. factual, poetic vs. prosaic, characterizations, world building detail, etc., you can have a decent discussion.  Staying away from the "I feel" responses- and concentrating more on the "I observe" ones can be a truly enlightening experience, to read through, or participate in,

Laielinwen 15/Dec/2006 at 04:13 AM
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Those type of compare/contrasts are good to do in isolation... When the purpose of the activity is how you feel or reacted to elements/parts.

Otherwise the activity should definitely be kept away from reactions. At the age I teach we mostly look at details regarding character’s actions/behaviors, event  or setting details. Specific things that can be found in the text and quoted. We have some great discussions.

nEUroTIc 15/Dec/2006 at 07:16 AM
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well according to me its quite possible..mainly for 1 reason..because a critical review of a work compared to another gives an idea to the author how to change his writing style to adapt better to the demands of the audiences..unfortunately the master isnt alive now but who cares..his works are a "master"peice anyway
Janskin 17/Dec/2006 at 04:03 PM
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I think its alright to do comparisons, as long as you keep firmly in mind that whatever you are comparing to Lord of the Rings IS still a separate work with a separate author. Direct comparisons are bad, but general comparisons should work out quite nicely.