Andurial’s Inscription

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Angdring 15/Dec/2006 at 12:12 PM
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I have seen several different , inscriptions, and renderings  about Andurial , on swords.   Some of them really bad.  Do we have any ideas, where the original Narsil was made  ? .  What inscription on Narsil . ? .   

 Andurial was forged from the shardes of Narsil , in Rivendale .  Would Elrond’s smiths have written the inscription in Quenya , and in the  runes of Darian, or would they have written it in Feanoran letters .    I’m sure most engravers ,even today could do cursive writting , on steel ,before it is hardend.

Do we have any source from Proffesor Tolkien, about what was inscribed Andurial’s blade. Other than Andurial ,Moon, sun, and seven stars ?     Any ideas ,or sources , welcomed .

geordie 15/Dec/2006 at 01:07 PM
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Narsil was made by a dwarf - Telchar - in Nogrod, in the First Age. As far as I know, Tolkien never said what the runes meant - on Narsil, nor Anduril. So, if you’ve read what folk say is on there - it’s rubbish. As far as I know.
Angdring 15/Dec/2006 at 05:02 PM
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 I fear you are right Geordie , I was just hoping  someone might surprize me , with some new information.I really hoped some of the linguist might have a feel about what kind of writting it might be.
Battlehamster 16/Dec/2006 at 03:12 PM
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Didn’t PJ have them put some weird inscription on Anduril or Narsil to make it look cool?  Ah, yes:

The runes on the blade read "Narsil essenya, macil meletya, telchar carnéron navrotessë," translating to "Narsil is my name, a mighty sword, Telchar made me in Nogrod." While Tolkien writes that there were runes engraved on the blade, this inscription is an invention of the filmmakers.

is what Wikipedia says on the matter. 

 Apparently PJ decided that, since Telchar was a Dwarf, it would make perfect sense to have the inscription be in Elvish.  I mean, I realize Dwarvish would probably be out of the question, but Westron maybe?  Though I guess its name is Elvish and I’m predisposed to dislike anything PJ did.

Morgil 21/Dec/2006 at 02:04 AM
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I just checked the passage in FotR and there’s no explanation of the runes’ meaning, type, or what language they were in. Just that the smiths of Rivendell put many runes on the blade. The scabbard that Galadriel gives Aragorn has the sword’s name and lineage spelled out in gems, but again, no mention of what mode of runes or the language.
Morgil 21/Dec/2006 at 02:18 AM
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Oops, sorry. I meant to add that I had also checked the info sheet that came with my copy of Anduril. According to the official imitation parchment New Line flyer, the inscription PJ and his crew of butchers put on the blade is supposed to be in Quenya. They claim the inscription on the blade translates as "I am Anduril who was Narsil, the sword of Elendil. Let the thralls of Mordor flee me."

Battlehamster...The passage you provided from Wikipedia is engraved on the pommel and it’s supposed to be in Sindarin. At least, according to the New Line toilet tissue     ...um...I mean the information sheet they included with the sword. 

Magradhaid 21/Dec/2006 at 10:19 AM
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Battlehamster, that was the inscription on movie-Narsil. Morgil, that was the inscription on movie-Andúril. Funnily enough, on Andúril they screwed up the runes and put D for A a couple times. Both are (neo)-Quenya. I wonder why they didn’t use the Runes of Gondolin on Glamdring?
Morgil 21/Dec/2006 at 10:39 PM
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Tyrhael...I know that those inscriptions applied to the cinematic version of  Narsil/Anduril. I thought I was clear enough on that when I mentioned that I was looking at my copy of the sword and the New Line toilet tissue...um..misinformation sheet.    As far as screwing up the runes, it’s not surprising. Considering all the other aspects of Tolkien’s creation that the movies butchered, why should they have left the runes alone? And you raise a valid point concerning Glamdring. However, I would not dare speculate as to why they made that change. I don’t like to try to think like PJ and crew.
Lothenon 22/Dec/2006 at 04:35 AM
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>Apparently PJ decided that, since Telchar was a Dwarf, it would make perfect sense to have the inscription be in Elvish. I mean, I realize Dwarvish would probably be out of the question, but Westron maybe?

At the time the sword was made not even the Númenórean language did exist yet (since Númenóre did not exist yet ), and the Westron is the more modern form of Númenórean, so not a chance for a Westron inscription
But it would have been much more logical if the inscription were made in Sindarin, since the dwarves had learned this and used this language when dealing with the Elves.

>on Andúril they screwed up the runes and put D for A a couple times.

The writer obviously knew Norse runes, because certh D has the exactly same shape as the A of many forms of Fuþork.