Wars in Middle-earth

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ekleers 28/Dec/2006 at 03:46 AM
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Could you tell me about wars in Middle-earth?

Of course there war War of the Ring, wars against Morgoth and Sauron, but I don’ t know nothig much about them.

Did they had any civil wars?

P.S.Sorry for my English

Morgil 28/Dec/2006 at 04:32 AM
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ekleers...Welcome to the Plaza. As to other wars, there were several. In the First Age there were the Wars of Beleriand, and a short-lived conflict between the Dwarves of Nogrod and the Elves of Doriath. The Second Age saw the War of the Elves and Sauron,  Numenore’s campaign against Sauron, and the war of the  Last Alliance and Sauron. The Third Age saw a great deal of conflict. There was the War of the Dwarves and Orcs, the conflict between Arnor (and its divisions) and Angmar, a number of wars/invasions between Gondor and the allies of Sauron, Gondor had a terrible civil war, and the Rohirrim’s ancestors (the Eotheod) had troubles with at least one eastern people (though the name escapes my memory right now). There were more conflicts, but those are the only ones that leapt immediately to mind. I hope this helps some.

ekleers 28/Dec/2006 at 05:24 AM
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Tnx Morgil, and what was the war of five or seven armies? Was it between Dwarves and Orcs?

And was there realy war Orcs VS. Hobbits???

Phil_d_one 28/Dec/2006 at 06:15 AM
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ekleer: The Battle of Five Armies was fought at the end of The Hobbit, between Elves, Dwarves and Men on one side and Orcs and Wolves on the other. It has a vague relevance to the wars of the Dwarves and Orcs in that Dain II Ironfoot killed Azog during those wars, and it was Azog’s son Bolg who led the Orcs at the Battle of Five Armies.

The only battle between Hobbits and Orcs took place at Greenfields, when a group of Orcs led by Golfimbul from Mount Gram invaded the Shire and were defeated by Bullroarer (Pippin’s ancestor). The Hobbits also maintain that they sent a company of archers to the wars in Arnor, but we are told that nobody else has any record of this.

Son of Huor 28/Dec/2006 at 07:11 AM
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If you would like to know more about the wars of the First Age in ME, you could probably best read the Silmarillion. The quenta Silmarillion (the main part of The Silmarillion ) tells about the wars that the Nodlor fought against Morgoth. Full of battles, fights, duels etc.
Most other wars of ME are at the very least named in the Sil, so you could really find a lot there.
Lady Rowena 30/Dec/2006 at 12:25 PM
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apart from the wars against morgoth, in the silmarillion you’ll find several battles between people of the same species(elves against elves, men against men, etc). i’m not very sure about who took part in these battles or when they took place, but i’m shure tha if you read the book you’ll find. probably somenoe has more information about them.

OriNori 30/Dec/2006 at 12:32 PM
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The battles that Lady Rowena mentioned are known as ’kin-slaying’. The basic idea of things is that Feanor and his followers first took part in ’kinslaying’. They wanted to go to ME and regain the Simarils from Morgoth. The Teleri elves refused to give their boats to Feanor for this purpose. Feanor took the boats and killed his ’kinsmen’. The second and third instances of this are undertaken by Feanor’s sons against Elwe of Doriath and against the elves in the Havens e.g. Cirdan. That’s just a very brief overview, read the book! 
Vugar 30/Dec/2006 at 01:24 PM
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The Nirnaeth Arnoediad, being the Fifth Battle of the Wars of Beleriand, involved the traitor Ulfang and his three sons Ulfast, Ulwarth and Uldor. They had come to Beleriand from the East and secretly served Morgoth. They openly betrayed and attacked the Edain and Elves during that battle. That is probably one of the more famous accounts concerning treacherous Men.