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The First Chapter is a Botch

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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 25/Sep/2009 at 11:49pm
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In a recent thread in Books Dorwiniondil kindly drew attention to some comments of C S Lewis regarding LOTR which John Rateliff had recently quoted on his blog. Lewis, of course, had been a sterling supporter of Tolkien's with regard to the production of LOTR and his reviews of the work were -in Tolkien's own view-  almost embarrassingly enthusiastic.
 
Yet Lewis had certain reservations about both the published and the 'work-in progress' aspects of LOTR. With regard to the latter he- and indeed Rayner Unwin- found the Hobbit humor somewhat cloying, and their combined opposition caused Tolkien- somewhat against his will- to edit out much of this. As far as the published version is concerned,  which overall Lewis rhapsodised about, the first chapter did not meet with his approval- as this quote shows:
 
Lewis writes "you are still only paddling in the glorious sea of Tolkien. Go on from THE HOBBIT at once to THE LORD OF THE RINGS . . . nearly as long as the Bible and not a word too long (except for the first chapter which is a botch -- don't be put off by it). THE HOBBIT is merely a fragment of his myth, detached, and adapted for children, and losing much by the adaptation. THE LORD OF THE R is the real stuff." [COLLECTED LETTERS OF CSL, Vol. III, pages 980-981].(my underline)
 
Is the first chapter-A Long Expected Party a botch as Lewis claimed, and if so, why is this? Alternatively, if you feel the first chapter works, why do you feel Lewis took the position that is set out in his letter?
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Knight of Edoras
  Eldorion Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 12:10am
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When was that letter written?  I'm curious as to what stage of development the story and A Long-Expected Party were at when Lewis made that comment.

Given the overall context of the quote though - the mythic and more mature nature of TLotR - I think that the word botch may have been used to mean that A Long-Expected Party was more in line with The Hobbit than the rest of the book.  It has lots of hobbits with silly-sounding names, a big party, and a few narrator-asides to the reader (though not quite like in TH).  The very opening paragraph seems quite more like the style of TH, though perhaps that's just my perception.  Of course, I don't know for sure what Lewis meant, but I think this could be it.

However, I would not personally refer to this as a botch as I think that it works very well.  The Hobbit is simpler and more innocent, as is the Shire itself (before it is spoiled).  It makes a certain degree of sense that the book would start off in the same way and then grow darker and more mature in the later chapters.

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  Tree Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 2:40am
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I can almost sort-of see where Lewis was coming from with that. The first chapter does certainly feel a sort of TH-LotR transition, (obviously its title is explicit evidence of this), but it does feel as if it starts a little... scattered, sort-of recapping the nature of Hobbits... I suppose in a way this nature should have been left to the Hobbit and The Prologue, and it maybe should have focused on delivering a strong start dwelling more on Bilbo and Frodo.

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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 2:50am
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Eldorion Dagda: The Letter was written on Oct 14 1958.Dead
He that would foil me must use such weapons as I do, for I have not fed my readers with straw, neither will I be confuted with stubble.
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Engineer of Mordor
  Hoth Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 3:28am
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Possibly "A Long Expected Party" is a natural transition between TH and LOTR and is a reiteration that these mythologies are dedicated to hobbits.  Perhaps Lewis was a bit impatient and wanted to emphasize Lotr because of "Shadow of the Past" revelations. 

"The Shadow of the Past" requires a polite introduction which, for me, heightened the sense of wonder and discovery I experianced when first reading Lotr. "A Long Expected Party" was a perfect way to go from happy-go-lucky to deadly serious.  The effect is hughly comparative for me and imprinted the chapter for future reference.  No botch for me.

I'm thinking that maybe Lewis was succumbing to human nature when making his "botch" comment;  the natural tendency to want to expand on a story that you have enjoyed.


Edited by Hothmog - 26/Sep/2009 at 3:31am
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Merchant of Minas Tirith
  Hallas C. Pehwarin Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 3:59am
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I personally do not think the first chapter was a failure. Every book has a beginning to show the reader comments made other authors and to begin the tale with the right words. Tolkien was explaining what a hobbit is and their lifestyle in the small region of Middle Earth called the Shire.
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Warrior of Imladris
  Dorwiniondil Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 9:43am
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Of course, this is small beer compared to what Tolkien thought of Narnia ....
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Doorwarden of Minas Tirith
  Ankala Teaweed Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 12:34pm
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Dor! That's for sure. I read Lewis' books, and my dislike in the ending of the first one just deepened to disgust as I went through the rest. As a child, I felt preached at by him; I not only did not like that!, I thought he did a really bad job of it as well.

I for one loved A Long-Expected Party, but if you read it without first reading The Hobbit, you totally miss the significance of it as a transition. All the questions it sets up! It just pulls you right on in. Worked for me!
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  Mikkelinski Posted: 26/Sep/2009 at 9:32pm
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I enjoyed the first chapter, and it serves wonderfully, as mentioned previously, as a transition from The Hobbit. To me, when I re-read LotR and hadn't read The Hobbit in a long time it also worked nicely as an introduction to Middle-Earth AND it also illustrated just how separated the Hobbits in the Shire are from the events in the rest of the world, something a less thorough description wouldn't manage. That is crucial if you start reading LotR and haven't read the Hobbit first, since you need to get an idea on how unlikely it is that a hobbit has gotten hold of the One Ring.

I think the reason Lewis called it a botch has to do with how it doesn't match up with the other chapters in its level of "seriousness" (for want of a better word). 
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  geordie Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 4:43am
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Go on from THE HOBBIT at once to THE LORD OF THE RINGS . . . nearly as long as the Bible and not a word too long (except for the first chapter which is a botch -- don't be put off by it)

Lewis says as much in his review of The Fellowship of the Ring - but there he qualifies his remarks. Here's a part of it:

'First, we must clearly understand that though _The Fellowship_ in one way continues its author's fairy tale _The Hobbit_, it is in no sense an overgrown 'juvenile'. The truth is the other way round. _The Hobbit_ was merely a fragment torn from the author's huge myth and adapted for children; inevitably losing something by the adaptation. _The Fellowship_ gives us at last the lineaments of that myth 'in their true dimensions like themselves'. Misunderstanding on this point might easily be encouraged by the first chapter, in which the author (taking a risk) writes almost in the manner of the earlier and far lighter book. With some who find the main body of the book deeply moving, this chapter may not be a favourite.

Yet there were good reasons for such an opening; still more for the Prologue (thoroughly admirable, this) which precedes it. It is essential that we should first be well steeped in the ' homeliness', the frivolity, even (in its best sense) the vulgarity of the creatures called Hobbits... They are not an allegory of the English, but they are perhaps a myth that only an Englishman (or, should we add, a Dutchman?) could have created.'

(The Gods Return to Earth; _Time and Tide_ 14th August 1954. reprinted as part of 'Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings' in 'Of This and Other Worlds' ed. W. Hooper 1982)

Lewis's letter contains what are obviously off the cuff remarks; Like Tolkien, Lewis did not expect his letters to be published. In contrast, the views put forward in Lewis's review are qualified and well thought out & argued - partly in expectation of hostile reviews perhaps? Anyway; I don't think we need read too much into this letter of Lewis's. We all know that overall, he was very happy with his friend's book when it was eventually published, as is shewn in the letter he wrote to Tolkien at that time. (though, mind you, he could not forgo the odd niggle). 'I have drained the rich cup' he said.



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Irmo
  halfir Posted: 29/Sep/2009 at 2:06pm
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I agree that the review qualifies the somewhat blunt statement in the letter, but he was decidedly hostile to the hobbit humor that Tolkien would have liked to have left in ( a hostility I share) and he- and several others- saw the Epilogue (which Tolkien also cut) as not at all appropriate. But overall I accept that he was very much in favor of LOTR.
 
And indeed his last paragraph, from the passages you quote, seems to me to be the ideal explanation of why the first chapter is as it is, and would be my justification for saying that it is decidedly not a botch!


Edited by halfir - 29/Sep/2009 at 2:09pm
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Linguist of Lothlorien
  Mithrandír Posted: 30/Sep/2009 at 12:00am
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Pfft. Nosnese on Lewis' part. I thought the chapter was equisite. Very lucid, but portraying elements of at first quietly hidden but slowly penetrating darkness, the chapter serves as an able and efficient transistion from the Hobbit to LotR.
 
Better talk about the first chapters of the first Narnia. Tongue
 
 
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