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Talan of Debates Description

What we do!

Talan of Debates HQ

How to Join

Lothlorien Debate Team Records

Inter-Kingdom Debate Season IV Overview

Inter-Kingdom Debate Season V

Inter-Kingdom All-star Debates

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Talan of Debates

On a talan high above the forest floor, there lies a great gathering place, the Debate Hall. Rectangular in shape, the Hall is opened to the forest surrounding it. A soft breeze flows through carrying the sound of birds singing and a clear blue light shows through the many windows. There is a stage at the far end, and many seats are before it, including a small desk and chair for the judge. Upon the stage two tables are set opposite each other, their white glimmering with iridescent hints of blue. At the center of the stage stands a small podium, simple in shape but intricately carved with many tengwar telling the stories of long-forgotten times. Upon the two tables, silver pitchers and goblets are delicately set, and around the tables are white chairs carved eloquently to match the seats for the audience. The ceiling is open, and a pale sunlight shines through the leaves as spectators and debaters begin to take their places. ~ design by Naurloth




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Team Information

What we do!

The Debate Team represents Lothlorien in the Inter-Kingdom (IK) Debates, organized formal debates between kingdoms. The IK Debates are round-robin (meaning every team debates every other team). At the end of the series the top teams enter into a playoff series. At the end of the playoffs, one team is declared the season's "IK champions".

The Debate Team also holds a Training Workshop Talan where anyone that is interested in becoming a member of the Debate Team can go and go through a step-by-step process of a debate post. They also hold pratice debates, restricted only to those team members who have gone through the process completely.

Talan of Debates HQ

This is the place where all Galadhrim can ask questions, Debaters can sign-up for IK debates, and the team Captains post all announcements. Cheerleaders and Helpers can also sign-up for the team here.

Behind the scenes planning and discussions for an IK Debate take place in a secret (Kingdom Only) thread. The team works together to come up with arguments, find supporting quotes, and critiquing each other's posts. Debaters write the debate posts, and Helpers – Galadhrim who just help with the arguments, but do not write them themselves – can help.

Want to try-out for the Debate Team?

Post the following information in an Open Practice if you want to be a Debater:
  1. Plaza Name (also, nickname, in parenthesis, if you have one):
  2. Email: Do not post if 15 of under.
  3. Debate experience (Plaza or RL):
  4. Books you have read/have access to:

You will put on the team as a Trainee Debater, and will then go through the step-by-step process of a debate post, following the posts posted by Captain Princess Gia. You will be taken on by either Princess Gia herself or her Co-Captain Nen, and once you finish the steps, you will be moved up to a Reserve Debater. From there, you must either do an IK Level debate post or wait until a Practice Debate and participate in that. The Team Captains will evaluate the debate post(s) using the same criteria as in previous tryouts. If there are any questions please ask in the Debate HQ.


Please post the following in the Debate HQ if you would like to be a Cheerleader or a Helper:
  1. Plaza Name (Also, nickname, in parenthesis, if you have one):
  2. E-mail: Do not post if 15 or under:
  3. Position wanted: Cheerleader or Helper
Please note that applications for Cheerleaders and Helpers are only accepted close to the start of the actual season. Casual spectators at IK debates are highly encouraged! So even if you do not want to be a cheerleader you are welcome to come watch.


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Inter-Kingdom Debate Season IV

9 Kingdoms - 8 debates


Lothlorien Debate Team

Captains Cirwen, ~Finduilas~
Debaters Alatarwen, Endillion, Herinya, Fingolfin, Samuraielf

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5 Wins-3 Losses and the longest winning streak of the season:
Lorien finished 4th in the league and continued into the playoffs.


IK Series IV- Semi-Finals

Lothlorien at Minas Tirith ---- Topic: Thingol's policies of isolationism were justified. ---- Proposition (MT) Opposition (Lorien)

Debaters Herinya, Fingolfin, ~Finduilas~, Cirwen,

Lothlorien 95 Minas Tirith 97




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Inter-Kingdom Debate Season V

Lothlorien Debate Team

Captains Herinya, Princess Gia
Debaters Rienoldo, Beleg, Sermela Calalen, Tar Elros

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3 Wins - 5 Losses
Lothlorien placed 7th in the season

Inter-Kingdom Allstar Debate



Team 1 Naraca Sure (Rending Wind) vs. Team 2 Ilya-Elen Nolahos (The All-Star Wise Guys)
Topic: Was it power or wisdom that was the overriding influence in Ea? (Team 1: Power, Team 2: Wisdom)

Judgment: Inter-Kingdom All-Star Debate Judgment Thread
Team 1 (Power) 85, Team 2 (Wisdom) 82


Cirwen, the newly appointed Lorien Debate Captain, represented Elfkind on Team 2 Ilya-Elen Nolahos (The All-Star Wise Guys).


Inter-Kingdom Debate Season VI

Round 1

The Shire at Lothlorien ---- Topic: Elrond had more power and influence in Middle-earth than Galadriel. ---- Proposition (The Shire) Opposition (Lothlorien)

Debaters Antolycus Lirendil, Nemroth, Faelminiel/Draven

The Shire 57 Lothlorien 43

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Round 3

Lothlorien at Isengard ---- Topic: The race of Men did more damage then good in the First Age. ---- Proposition (Lothlorien) Opposition (Isengard)

Debaters Antolycus Lirendil, Nemroth, Shadowheart/Nenedhel Engrin

Lothlorien 61 Isengard 39

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Round 4

Rivendell at Lothlorien ---- Topic: Galadriel and Celeborn put their own interests ahead of Lothlórien’s. ---- Proposition (Rivendell) Opposition (Lothlorien)

Debaters Nenedhel Engrin, Antolycus Lirendil, Faelminiel

Rivendell 57 Lothlorien 56

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Round 5

Minas Tirith at Lothlorien ---- Topic: In the case of the Peredhel, mortality is a better choice than immortality. ---- Proposition (Minas Tirith) Opposition (Lothlorien)

Debaters Faelminiel, Nenedhel Engrin, Princess Gia

Minas Tirith 35 Lothlorien 11

Lothlorien and Team Isengard combined due to lack of debaters. The previous debates from both teams are combined, and the Lorien/Isengard match from Round 3 is thrown out completely to give the new team the same amount of debates as the other teams. Return to Top

Round 6

Lothlorien/Isengard at Mordor ---- Topic: Talking animals/beasts in Middle-Earth did more for the cause of good than the cause of evil. ---- Proposition (Lothlorien/Isengard) Opposition (Mordor)

Debaters KingODuckingham (Isengard), Darth Enalan (Isengard), Nenedhel Engrin

Lothlorien/Isengard 49 Mordor 64

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0 Wins - 8 Losses
Lothlorien/Isengard finished 9th in the league
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last updated December 2005 by Princess Gia

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