Who am I?

[Evanic Salsonim]

Rules for this game:

-When someone ask's a question and you get it right its your turn
-ask one question at a time
-Just have fun

Ok here is my question.

I live in the tunnels of the Misty mountains,
I eat raw fish,
I lost something very dear to me,
I am skinny,
Who am I?

You don't Necessarily have to do that you can describe him I.e. he lives in the Misty mountains, loves to eat things raw, calls a rings precious, and was a hobbit once, Who is he?

Anything like that will do

[The TARDIS]

Gollum!

[Silendra]

Evanic Salsonim, I don't really think this is the correct place for a game like this: Peoples & Races is generally a place where people discuss characters rather than guess about them. Many kingdoms have riddle threads that are quite like this, however..

[Brandybuck]

Xanthippe is correct. This forum is for discussions about places and people of Middle-Earth. Games are usually not found here. I'll move itto the Games Forum. Feel free to continue the game there. Most kingdoms have riddle games and the Shire has a Who Am I game. Feel free to participate in those as well.

[Maglor Meneldur]

I have been chained with a very strong chain
I have many minions
I came directly from HIM
I have a horrendous sledgehammer ... and despite all that
I knew fear
Who am I? :)

[Mithrandír]

Sauron.

[Maglor Meneldur]

Another guess ?

[Morwen Daegomir]

Melkor?

[Maglor Meneldur]

Sure you guessed it Or Morgoth as he is later known. Your turn to give us a riddle

[Morwen Daegomir]

Why Thankies, Maglor!
<DIV align=center>A shepherd of trees am I;
<DIV align=center>High does my shape loom in the sky
Those I once held dear are now long gone;
I am not hasty; I have walked the earth far too long
Who am I?
<DIV align=center>
<DIV align=center>

[Mithrandír]

Treebeard, or an Ent.

[Morwen Daegomir]

Tee-hee, ya, 'tis Treebeard! *prize bell goes on-Dingalinnngg* Righto, mate, it is your turn, Mithradir, to befuddle our minds and ensnare our senses with yet another enthralling riddle. Right, I shall shut me trap now...Possibly.

[Maglor Meneldur]

Michael, nice poetry

[Morwen Daegomir]

*takes a bow* You're too kind, too kind...Lol

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

I love this game!
C'mon, Mithrandir! Let's hear your riddle.

And a most Happy New Year LOTR-fans!

[Morwen Daegomir]

Perhaps it would be best if we had a rule here that said that after 24 hrs., go to open floor? Then we could keep this moving if someone doesn't post back within the time limit...
Oh and Happy New Years to you to!

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

usually there is a 24 hour rule so how about weuse that rule from now on eh?

[Morwen Daegomir]

Sounds like a plan to me. So I shall take the liberty of saying that the floor is now OPEN! Anyone feel free to jump on in with a new riddle for the rest of us to solve. I'm afraid my brain is fried right now, I won't take the opportunity. Anyone else feel free! And from now on, remember, 24 hrs!

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

I dont look like much of an adventurer but you'd be wrong
I Inherited something precious
You may say i live in Cul-de-sac
I held the one in my nine

=] Have at it :P was quick but will do for now

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Oh, but that's not so difficult, I guess
It's good ol' Master Bilbo!
Am I right?

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

Excellent guess my friend! However you aren't quite there. However i doubt it will be long now XD.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Oh !
The 'NINE'!!!
I did not pay attention to this word! Tricky!!
FRODO - this must be, then, considering his loss of finger.

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

Indeed 'Twas Fod XD Well done. Your up next =] Good luck

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

Sorry for double post but... Fod? I could have swore i typed Frodo..

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Yey! My turn!
Now, I am not in a poetic mood, so I shall not be able to write in verses. Annnnd ... I can't promise an "easy" guess

So, here it goes:

I was a prince - but not son of a King.
I was a champion - but little loved by others.
I was brave before the big - but weak before the little.
I lived by the code of honour - but honoured the rightful I did not.
I fought a lot of battles - but victory I never won.
I was a captain - but died as a soldier.

Who am I?

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Helllloooowwww.... Anyone?

This is what happens when threads are being cast into the hell

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

Faramir seems to fit most of those.. but I have a feeling it's not him. Oh well, I'lll guess him anyways, and then go searching through Appendixes. I think I've read about this person....

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

I was tempted to chance Faramir but was discouraged, i found something previously which told me it wasnt him. Cant find it now though :P

[Morwen Daegomir]

Boromir?

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Mmmmm...
I wanted to see: "This is ........ because ..... "
And all I get is a word + "?"
So tempted to trick you!

But .... I have to play it fair.

Michael Cleese wrote:
Boromir?

YES!
Your turn now!

[Thaliondae Suchi-ru]

Ahh, alas, upon revelation it all makes sense! Well played Aldoriana!

[Morwen Daegomir]

Fine. Brave before the big, because he was a good fighter, but weak before the little because he was too weak to resist the ring, and attacked Frodo (who is...well, little) Um.. Yes, I'm lazy so that's all I'm going to put, because that gave it away for me. The reason I wrote "Boromir" with a ?, was because it seemed too obvious, and I tend to overthink things...haha. Anyways! Onto the next riddle!
<DIV align=center>
My daughter faced a dreadful choice,
One that changed her life forever,
<DIV align=center>I was there when the race of men disappointed many,
Because of their weakness and greed


<DIV align=left>Wow, well, that's all I've got. I'm just not very good at these..
And...the person in my clue:...WAS IN THE MATRIX!! Hee-hee, I wonder if anyone will see this...
Anyways...Guess away!


<DIV align=center>

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

May I? May I? May I?

Now... I think this is Elrond.

My daughter faced a dreadful choice,
One that changed her life forever,
(Arwen who gave up her immortality for her love for Aragorn)

I was there when the race of men disappointed many,
Because of their weakness and greed
(the episode with Isildur and his refusal to destroy the One-an episode rather from the movie, than from the book, even though an episode which I think was very emotional. )

So, I say Elrond.
What sayeth thou?
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BTW, thank you for showing how you guessed my riddle. Isn't it more fun this way?

[Morwen Daegomir]

Aldoriana- You asketh what I sayeth. And, Yea, I say unto thou, you are correct..eth...haha.

And yes *grumbles* I suppose it is nice to know how the riddles were guessed...heh.

Anywho, that means you are up!
(P.S. No one probably noticed, but if you highlight the post, there is another clue in it..hee hee...I couldn't resist it. )

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

(P.S. No one probably noticed, but if you highlight the post, there is another clue in it..hee hee...I couldn't resist it. )

Ah, you...!

Anyway, it's my turn.... again.... Is it fair? I mean... I would love to see more people participating! But since they have decided to throw this thread in some "uncharted territories"... what can we expect!

Therefore, I say -

I am giving to anyone else the right to post his/her riddle instead of me.
Please, you are most welcome!
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P.S. What can we do to popularize this game?Hmmmm... I'll think about it...

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

I'll take you up on that, Aldoriana...

I strove to be great,
But in the end,
Reaching the test,
Faded instead.

Hmm... on reflection, that looks easy. Oh well.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Easy? Ha!
I, personally, have no idea who this might be... in fact, there are a few Tolkien's characters to fit such a description.
Hmmm....

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Pst... a hint, please?

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

It was an Elf.

[Ecthel]

Galdriel

[Ecthel]

Whoops, Galadriel*

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Galadriel seems a good option.

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

Correct and good work, Ecthel. Your turn.

[Ecthel]

I won't have time to think of a riddle, so feel free to continue without me.

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

Well, then, I guess it's....

OPEN FLOOR!

[Mithrandír]

Then i'll take it on!

In the Silmarillion, at what time was it said that the Jewels of Feanor would be opened and the substance of which they were made named?

(This particular event was later abandoned by Tolkien, i think, but is still written in the Silm (if i remember correctly..) if no-one can guess or the answer was made up by my own bashful memory then i'll ask another one. If i remember to pop back here again, of course.. ok, let's not go there.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Mith, get some sleep, mate! You seem to have posted in a wrong thread
(and honestly, I cannot even quite understand what exactly your question is about - about the time this was said, or the time it will happen, or about the substance locked within the Silmarils ... ???).

[tmbroe01]

I think he's talking about the Dagor Dagorath, but I believe you're supposed to ask questions about a character?

[Mithrandír]

1: I've had enough sleep

2: You don't need to ask a question about a character, it can be anything, as their are no rules touching that.

Yes, it was the Dagor Dagorath.

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

It's called 'Who Am I?' so I'd assume it's characters. From now on, let's stick to that. tmbroe, would you like to go ahead and ask the next question?

[tmbroe01]

I took avaliant stand
Helplesslywatched my kindred suffer

Betrayed by friends

Cast myself into the sea

Day shall come again!

[tmbroe01]

I took avaliant stand
Helplesslywatched my kindred suffer

Betrayed by friends

Cast myself into the sea

Day shall come again!

Sorry to double post, but I made a mistake with one of the clues in my previous posts.

The third clue should be:
Betrayed my friends

[Mithrandír]

i think it' been 24 hours since your first post, and no-one has got the answer. i also have no idea maybe some other clue that could elaborate this seemingly impossible enigma? (now all i need now is Halfir to yawn, pop in and get it straight away, but never mind)

[tmbroe01]

Sorry for the wait. Here's another clue. I was one of the Edain of the First Age.

Hope that helps.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Hmmm......,
I am reminded of the following episode from the Fifth battle in ME - theNirnaeth Arnoediad:

But now a cry went
up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men
lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlocked for Turgon
had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong,
with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon
heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his
heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: '<i style="">Utúlie'n
aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë![/i] The day has come! Behold,
people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who
heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: '<i style="">Auta i lómë! [/i]The night is passing!'

So, I'd rather say Fingon.
Yet, he did not cast himself in the sea, nor was he a traitor.... nor an Edain!

I shall be thinking

[tmbroe01]

Hmmm......,
I am reminded of the following episode from the Fifth battle in ME - theNirnaeth Arnoediad:

But now a cry went
up, passing up the wind from the south from vale to vale, and Elves and Men
lifted their voices in wonder and joy. For unsummoned and unlocked for Turgon
had opened the leaguer of Gondolin, and was come with an army ten thousand strong,
with bright mail and long swords and spears like a forest. Then when Fingon
heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his
heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: '<i style="">Utúlie'n
aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë![/i] The day has come! Behold,
people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!' And all those who
heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: '<i style="">Auta i lómë! [/i]The night is passing!'

So, I'd rather say Fingon.
Yet, he did not cast himself in the sea, nor was he a traitor.... nor an Edain!

I shall be thinking

You're close, and you're on the right track with that clue. Read to the end of the battle and it might become more clear.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

I actually was searching for another one of those famous cries:

Last of all Húrin stood
alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and wielded an axe two-handed; and it is
sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until
it withered, and each time that he slew Húrin cried: '<i style="">Aurë entuluva![/i] Day shall come again!'

So, Húrin this must be!
Besides,

Then he turned away, and
passed out from the Thousand Caves, and all that saw him fell back before his
face; and none sought to withstand his going, nor did any know whither he went.
But it is said that Húrin would not live thereafter, being bereft of all
purpose and desire, and cast himself at last into the western sea; and so ended
the mightiest of the warriors of mortal Men.

The only thing that "bothers me, is the issue of "betrayal". I mean .... how did he betray his people?

[tmbroe01]

You are correct Aldoriana.

As for the clue about betrayal, I probably could have worded it better. He ends up betraying the location of Gondolin to Morgoth's spies when he goes searching for it after he is released by Morgoth. That is what I meant by that clue.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

I thought so!

All right ...
My turn?
Ah, tomorrow is Saturday, and if I'm lucky not to work, then I shall come here to offer a new riddle.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Sorry for being late!!!
Right... Let's try this one:

I was mighty and fierce,
Armour and hoards I had untold.
But warrior I was not.
Enslave I could the weak and the bold.
With words only the heart I could pierce!

Who am I

[Ecthel]

Saruman?

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Why?

[Ecthel]

Didn't realize we had to explain why...?

I was mighty and fierce,
Armour and hoards I had untold. (10,000 Uruks?)
But warrior I was not. (Saruman was a wizard)
Enslave I could the weak and the bold.(Voice of Saruman)
With words only the heart I could pierce!

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Ah! I can now see your reason....
But no, m'friend,it's not Saruman!
Besides, each line of the riddle gives information about the character we're looking for, therefore we'd better "match" each such piece of information to a character, not just some.

And, yes, when trying to solve a riddle we're supposed to explain why. I don't know about you, but I find the actual fun precisely in this.

All right ..... the challenge is still on!

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Perhaps .... a hint, eh?
All right, here's one:

By a heavenly master I was made.
By a heavenly weapon I was slain.

Got it now?

[tmbroe01]

Well, I was already thinking of Glaurung, but I wasn't too sure. You're last two clues make that abundantly clear. Heavenly maker: Melkor, Heavenly blade: Gurthang.



So I answer Glaurung.

[Mithrandír]

Tmbroe01: Eol the dark Elf wrote that blade. I don't think that it can be classed as 'heavenly blade', unless I'm missing something. Although the last line does through the light on the subject (I was slain) Also, i don't think that Glaurung held hoards and armour untold, nor did he peirce the heart with words; it was mostly his stare.

[tmbroe01]

Tmbroe01: Eol the dark Elf wrote that blade. I don't think that it can be classed as 'heavenly blade', unless I'm missing something. Although the last line does through the light on the subject (I was slain) Also, i don't think that Glaurung held hoards and armour untold, nor did he peirce the heart with words; it was mostly his stare.

Umm,

"Then Beleg choose Anglachel, and that was a sword of great worth, and it was so named because it was made of iron that fell from heaven as a blazing star..." Anglachel was renamed Gurthang after it was reforged in Nargothrond.



I think that would classify as a heavenly blade.



As for armour and hoards, Glaurung led Morgoth's armies in the sack of Nargothrond so that could count.



And, yes, Glaurung's gaze was powerful, but I would say that the words he spoke to his victims were far more damaging.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

tmbroe01, Bravo!!!
Excellent reasoning!

Yes, I meant Glaurung.

I was mighty and fierce, (he was a mighty dragon and vicious and fierce)
Armour and hoards I had untold. (Nargothrond)
But warrior I was not. (well, he was not, was he )
Enslave I could the weak and the bold. (he did that - he enslaved lots of Elves and Men - some -ordinary men and women, some - warriors, even Turin)
With words only the heart I could pierce! (I wanted to also include the 'eyes' but then it would've been too obvious! )

Well, it's YOUR FLOOR!

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Mithrandir,I think that tmbroe01 has explained it all very correctly, and I don't have much to add about the 'heavenly blade' , or about the power of the words Glaurung used.

[Mithrandír]

Tmbroe1: forgot about that part.

Aldo: Agreed.

[tmbroe01]

My forgetfulness nearly caused disaster.
Friend to Gandalf, distrustful of Aragorn.

Not much in the way of clues but I'm sure you'll get it.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Good. It's settled now.

How about a new riddle?
tmbroe01?

[tmbroe01]

Good. It's settled now.

How about a new riddle?
tmbroe01?

Check the post above you.

[Kirinki54]

My forgetfulness nearly caused disaster.
BETTER LANDLORD THAN POSTMAN
Friend to Gandalf, distrustful of Aragorn.
GANDALF USED TO STAY AT HIS PLACE; STRIDER TOO BUT HE LOOKED UNTRUSTWORTHY

= Barliman Butterbur?

[tmbroe01]

You're absolutely correct.

Your turn Kirinki.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Oh, timbroe01, I did miss that! Sorry!

My, my... Look who's joined us! Am I glad to see you around, m'friend!
Yeah, it's your turn, and have no mercy!

Ad fontes!

[Kirinki54]

Indeed, Aldo! (Thanks for the 'links tip' in the 'Norse thread', I forget to say!)

Now it is my turning poetic!

If I had listened to advice
my life could have been more nice.
But I went along bitter and frayed
In the old man´s view I was betrayed.
Too common that fate in those days
when the fiend ran his maze.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

This is the strangest thing ever!
I was thinking this very morning that next time I have to offer a riddle, I'd write about <b style="">Fëanor[/b]!
But now you have written this one (and a nice verse it is! ), and it is about him! ... Isn't it?

[Kirinki54]

Perhaps could have been. But

[Kirinki54]

No takers? Perhaps I should offer a clue then.

The Dark Elf
in my death had a hand
- though he himself
died in another land.

[Lanthir Lamath]

Turin?

[Kirinki54]

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Yeek! Not Feanor!

Well done, Lanthir!
But .... I'm curious... could you show your reasoning for that riddle being about Turin?

And of course - "smash" on us a new riddle.

[Lanthir Lamath]

Thank you, Kirinki and Aldo. The reasoning:

If I had listened to advice

my life could have been more nice.
- Turin failed to listen to the advice Beleg gave, and failed to stay put/return to Menegroth.
But I went along bitter and frayed
- The name he took up, "Neithan", means the "Wronged", which does indicate bitterness.
In the old man´s view I was betrayed.
- I wasn't sure if this meant Sador Labadal or if the word "old man" was used in the sense of "father", and meant Thingol, whose foster son Turin was. Either way, tI wasn't completely sure, but both sounded plausible.
Too common that fate in those days
-That's about when Barahir was betrayed I think, but many others were betryed. The key word for me was "fate", which conjured associated images of Hurin and Niennor.
when the fiend ran his maze.- Glaurung would be the fiend, but I wasn't if the maze was Nargothrond, or the figurative "maze" he wove in people's minds_ as he played avoc with both Turin's and Niennor's brains, I suspected the latter.

The Dark Elf

in my death had a hand
- though he himself

died in another land.
-Eol's hand did forge the sword upon which Turin cast himself.

As for new riddles... oi, I'm pathetic at making them up. Please don't kick me for it. Let's see:

To the sea I was last sent,
And returned accompanied.
No doubt my kin thought ill of that.
Yet I was right, as events showed:
While many fell before the fire,
Water saved hope and hearts' desire.

[Kirinki54]

Lanthir, that is almost exactly what I meant.

Except "In the old man´s view I was betrayed" by which I meant Húrin. Little pun there: Húrin actually saw the whole tragedy unravel...

Very tricky one you have come up with!

[Lanthir Lamath]

Like I said, I am very bad at this. I thought Hurin's er, "seeing" of the tragedy was ...skewed? By Morgoth that ish?

[Ecthel]

Earendil?

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Ecthel, I guess you are right, but would you share with us your reasoning?

[Lanthir Lamath]

No, he's not right. Sorry.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Ouch!
Hmmm... that's why I'm asking for more explanations.

Good one, Lanthy!!!!



&lt;Vana edit: Apologies. I'll come up with a hint later today if no one's guessed it by then.&gt;

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

Voronwe, son of Aranwe.
To the sea I was last sent, He was in the last ship that Turgon sent into the West
And returned accompanied. He brought Tuor back with him to Gondolin
No doubt my kin thought ill of that. No man should have been shown the secret way in to Gondolin
Yet I was right, as events showed:
While many fell before the fire,
Water saved hope and hearts' desire. If they had followed the warning Tuor and Voronwe brought from Ulmo, then they wouldn't have fallen before the fire of Morgoth's dragons.

[Lanthir Lamath]

Kaldaka. I'm guessing it's your turn!

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

Thanks Lanthy! That was a good one. When it wasn't' Earendil, I remembered Voronwe... always liked that guy.

Hmmm...

Of threefold race
And threefold grace
He wore the necklace fair
It was his doom
Swift gath'ring gloom
Came by an ancient vow.

Not the best, but it'll do.

[Lanthir Lamath]

Dior ?

[Kaldaka Lirinde]

The floor be yours, Lanthy!

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

C'mon! Don't spoil the fun, Lanthy! Tell us 'Why?'.

[Ecthel]

Omg, it's so easy why! We don't need an explaination everytime

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Call me stupid - it may not be so obvious to me, for ex..
So, I'd appreciate reading about how a person has come to his/her conclusion - right or wrong.

Besides, this game is within a Lore-forum and as much as it is fun, participants are expected and most welcome to show their knowledge of the books.

[Lanthir Lamath]

Of threefold race - Elf, Human Maia
And threefold grace - Known as the Fair
He wore the necklace fair - The Nauglamir
It was his doom - Which is why the sons of Feanor attacked
Swift gath'ring gloom - kinslaying
Came by an ancient vow. - Feanor's oath.

Anyway, it so happens that I've got to run immediately, and I don't want to delay the thread... so I'd like to leave the floor open for whoever wants to post instead. And I will try to answer, too.

[Lady d`Ecthelion]

Let's try this one:

A boy I was,
my father went to war.
A youth I was,
had life of a slave which could stand no more.

Through waters gods then spoke to me,
And blessed I was to see
the might and glory of the Elves,
and trumpets were blown,
to honour the man of the mortal race.

Uf! I'm not a rhymester, am I?!